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[Another T-Mac trade thread] What course of action makes the most sense?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by baller4life315, Dec 28, 2009.

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What course of action makes the most sense?

  1. Option A

    32 vote(s)
    20.6%

  2. Option B

    72 vote(s)
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  3. Option C

    13 vote(s)
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  4. Option D

    28 vote(s)
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  5. None of the above

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  1. baller4life315

    baller4life315 Member

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    You can flame me for creating yet another thread pertaining to T-Mac, but this is in an important point that could generate a ton of great discussion that I haven't seen discussed really.

    What do you prefer we trade T-Mac for?

    Option A: We're 18-13 and we have a solid team without him. We have the opportunity to essentially add a player(s) to that mix basically for free. Take what we already have and add to it. Upgrade areas of weakness but otherwise don't mess with chemistry.

    Option B: Swing for the fences. These are tough economic times and some teams are on the verge of crumbling. Morey has stated on record his willingness to absorb long-term salary if he finds the right deal. Do we try to go all-out and get a Chris Paul, Chris Bosh or (to a lesser degree) Kevin Martin type? A deal that would almost certainly require us to take back some nasty contracts, however it's also the type of deal that could potentially land us another superstar to replace Tracy. You potentially risk chemistry in this scenario, however it's the type of risk that could also be a no-brainer (i.e. if a reasonable deal for CP3 finds it's way to the table).

    Option C: Keep it simple -- take his contract and break it into pieces. This is the type of the deal the Knicks would almost assuredly agree to. You can swap his contract for two smaller contracts. Maybe let one expire and shop the other since the idea of trading a $10-13M expiring contract is 100x more likely to lead to a deal than a $23M contract by itself is. Overall, this wouldn't be a flashy move but it's the type of deal that could make sense if no better options present themselves.

    Option D: Keep him and let him expire. Try to get insurance to pick up his salary again for every game that he doesn't play.

    Thoughts?

    Mods lock/merge, if necessary.
     
    #1 baller4life315, Dec 28, 2009
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  2. Dave_78

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    Option B would be my choice but I don't think it's realistic. Option A (aka Jermaine O'neal) seems like the best of the realistic options.

    If we pick up JO and add a healthy Von Wafer the team gets a lot better without losing any flexibility this summer.
     
    #2 Dave_78, Dec 28, 2009
  3. BasketballReasons

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    CP3 :eek:
     
    #3 BasketballReasons, Dec 28, 2009
  4. lauradelenn

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    I personally liked Option B, but think that A or C are far more likely in reality.

    A girl can dream though, can't she?
     
    #4 lauradelenn, Dec 28, 2009
  5. 11Rox4Life3

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    Option A.

    Option B is unrealistic, if we had a chance at a Chris Paul, we'd have already done it, I don't think there's any chance we get back an all-star caliber player in return. The hypocrisy is what I find funny, the amount of hate for him on this board, you'd think we'd trade him for anything, BUT when those same people are complaining, they expect some sort of magical package (not directed at the OP, just in general).

    Option D, isn't an option IMO. McGrady has been semi diplomatic in this whole thing, and if we were just not to play him, that not only tarnishes our franchises name for doing such a low thing, but it creates a huge distraction for the team. A buyout is more simpler IMO.

    Option C is the 2nd most likely. It puts us in a similar situation, but without a distraction.

    So yeah, I think Option A/C is the most realistic, and beneficial. The other two aren't options IMO.
     
    #5 11Rox4Life3, Dec 28, 2009
  6. redao

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    Option D. cheap, easy, safe.
     
    #6 redao, Dec 28, 2009
  7. pmac

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    c'mon baller...another one...you're better than this
     
    #7 pmac, Dec 28, 2009
  8. YallMean

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    Stay put till the trade deadline. The market for Tmac is not on our side right now. Something is going to happen around Feb.

    Last thing I want to see is we take on Knick's bloated garbages and dub them as a gamble we are willing to take. But Morey is no CD, so the Rox are in good hands.
     
    #8 YallMean, Dec 28, 2009
  9. leebigez

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    I would dump him for scraps if thats what it came too. Like you have said, they're playing pretty good right now without him, but adding another player wouldn't hurt either. People are frowning on the alleged curry deal, but i view it as a 1 yr thing. Curry and Lee as a package would allow the team to make another move because of the smaller contracts. Curry has 1 more year after this one and lee is ufa, but that move would allow the rockets to get under the lt and move someone else in another deal before the deadline like scola,shane,or lowry.. The gm has to be a wheeler and dealer to make 2 trades inside the trade dealine, but if you can do it, then do it.
     
    #9 leebigez, Dec 28, 2009
  10. baller4life315

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    I know. I was debating whether or not to actually create this thread. Overall, I feel it's a topic worthy of discussion by itself. In the other 1,500 T-Mac hate/drama/trade whatever threads you don't really see a discussion of, schematically, what makes the most sense for this team going forward. That's my goal here. If it turns into another T-Mac hate-fest, gets off track or DD blackholes the thread into oblivion -- so be it.

    Again, the idea is moving forward and NOT to dwell on the past. What to do now?
     
    #10 baller4life315, Dec 28, 2009
  11. HeyDude

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    I think with Morey there is a possibility of A + C together. If he can add a decent center who is expiring along with another expiring for TMAC, that kills 2 birds with one stone :cool:
     
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  12. herro

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    Yeah Chris Bosh is probably out of the question. The Raps are on a tear.
     
    #12 herro, Dec 28, 2009
  13. RedRowdy111

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    Ive said Joe Johnson from day 1. Although I doubt we have the biggest offer
     
    #13 RedRowdy111, Dec 28, 2009
  14. mazinger

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    The only correct answer and best is let his contract expire. Use that money to resign or extend current Rocket's contracts and sign some new players.
     
    #14 mazinger, Dec 28, 2009
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    If the Suns fall out of the playoff picture I get the feeling they're that one team who'll have a trade deadline fire sale. Housing market collapse, dwindling crowds, and a history of salary dumping.

    Chicago needs to either trade Tyrus Thomas or trade away $14M of 2010 salary to make room for Thomas's cap hold.

    If there's nothing available and they're looking at only having the MLE next season... There's Dunleavy who'll be an expiring contract next season. Can cover third PG, mostly SG, not so keen on him playing minutes as a forward.

    Packaging Brooks or Landry with McGrady might turn out an unbelievably good offer from another team.
     
    #15 worzel gummidge, Dec 28, 2009
  16. Depressio

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    If it's possible, swing for the fences. I'm just not so sure it is. Is Toronto really ready to part ways with Chris Bosh? Is New Orleans really desperate enough to trade Chris Paul in order to dump long-term salary? I don't know.

    But hey, if the Hornets are willing:

    Peja Stojakovic, James Posey, Chris Paul

    ... for...

    Tracy McGrady, Aaron Brooks, Shane Battier (hey, I'll even toss in Brian Cook!)

    Get 'er done Morey!
     
    #16 Depressio, Dec 28, 2009
  17. waytookrzy079

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    i dont know if this has been mentioned in previous threads or not, but maybe negotiating a trade with the bulls...but i'm not sure if they'd go for it...

    Chicago gets: Tracy McGrady
    Houston gets: Brad Miller & Jerome James

    With the small lineup that we've got, Brad Miller would be a pretty good fit since he's played in the RA system and Jerome James to add more depth to the front court. BOTH players are in the last year of their contracts and we would save about $4mill which can be used in free agency this coming summer.
     
    #17 waytookrzy079, Dec 28, 2009
  18. waytookrzy079

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    Also forgot to mention...i know jerome james is CRAP but id rather have someone that just might have a better chance to get on the court someone as of right now is probably not gonna play for the Rockets again...
     
    #18 waytookrzy079, Dec 28, 2009
  19. baller4life315

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    I'm open to whatever, but personally I highly doubt Morey is going to make a move that undermines the success this team has had so far. It would almost be insulting to Adelman to take an 18-13 team that's on pace for the playoffs and make some sort of drastic, play-for-the-future type move that makes us worse in the short-term.

    I think (or at least, I hope) that the goal is to explore options that won't involve us sacrificing our current level play and status as a possible playoff team. That's kind of why I lean towards a move conservative approach (Options A/C).
     
    #19 baller4life315, Dec 28, 2009
  20. Dave_78

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    Between the increase in minutes Landry is receiving and the "just enjoy the ride" answer Morey gave on the radio when asked about Scola's future as a Rocket I would say Scola is the guy most likely to be packaged in a deal.

    He has a ton of value to other teams and he also happens to play the same position as probably the best player on the team (who also happens to be younger than him).
     
    #20 Dave_78, Dec 28, 2009
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