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Another Reason to Vote for Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, May 29, 2008.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    When asked what he would do during his first hundred days, he answered:

    "I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution."
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Refreshing to hear. I think that's the best thing he could do.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    So in other words, a Terrorist Bill of Rights. Sweet. Hamas' endorsement is really paying off!
     
  4. rhester

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    President Obama has over 8000 he needs to review, most are unconstituional.
    Some are very damaging to the Constitution.

    I stopped judging candidates on campaign promises about 5 years ago. I wish all voters would do the same. Anyways here is a list if anyone wants to remind him in those first 100 days:

    George W. Bush (2001-Present)
    EO's 13198 - 13464 | Subject Index

    William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
    EO's 12834-13197 | Subject Index

    George Bush (1989-1993)
    EO's 12668-12833

    Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
    EO's 12287-12667

    Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
    EO's 11967-12286

    Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)
    EO's 11798-11966

    Richard Nixon (1969-1974)
    EO's 11452-11797

    Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)
    EO's 11128-11451

    John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
    EO's 10914-11127

    Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)
    EO's 10432-10913

    Harry S. Truman (1945-1953)
    EO's 9538-10431

    Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945)
    EO's 6071-9537

    Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
    EO's 5075-6070
    1,011 EO's issued

    The Disposition Tables list the status of Executive Orders from:

    January 8, 1937 - April 30, 2008
    Disposition Tables contain information about Executive Orders beginning with those signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt and are arranged according to Presidential administration and year of signature. The tables are compiled and maintained by the Office of the Federal Register editors.

    The Disposition Tables include the following information:

    Executive order number;
    Date of signing by the President
    Federal Register volume, page number, and issue date
    Title
    Amendments (if any)
    Current status (where applicable)
    Learn More About Executive Orders And About These Tables

    link
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    GOOD BYE PATRIOT ACT !!!

    A true American hero.....GO GO OBAMA !!

    DD
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I would like to see how you drew that conclusion.
     
  7. weslinder

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    Obama voted to re-authorize the Patriot Act.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Well for starters, we won't be able to wire-tap terrorists' conversations anymore. Second, we won't be able to access terrorists' information in databases.

    So, Obama wants to scale back our military, weaken our defenses against terrorists, hand the keys to Iraq over to al Qaeda and Iran, and sit down and give ground to the leaders of hostile regimes such as Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea. Someone really needs to check into Obama's potential conflicts of interest with our nation's enemies.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    WRONG! We still have unlimited ability to wiretap anyone outside the US without restrictions. In addition, the FISA provisions allow for wiretapping of anyone, including citizens, with warrants that can be issued up to three days AFTER the wiretap. Merely a matter of filling out the proper paperwork after the tap is set up.

    WRONG! The PATRIOT Act (which was voted for by Obama and is not an Executive Order and thus not subject to his unilateral revision) allows for this data to be accessed.

    WRONG! Obama has never once talked about reducing funding for or "scal[ing] back" our military in any way.

    WRONG! See above, RE military.

    WRONG! He wants to get the Iraqis to start standing up for themselves so that we can bring our troops home. In addition, he has spoken about chasing down AQ wherever they may operate.

    WRONG! At no point has Obama suggested that the US "give ground" to anyone. At the height of the Cold War, against an enemy that could have literally annihilated us at any point, we never cut off diplomatic relations. Refer to the famous quote by Sun-tzu, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer." How exactly will we get them to do what we want if we are acting like six year olds giving the silent treatment?

    Whoever takes on this task should also check into your conflicts with reality.
     
  10. rhadamanthus

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    As much as I hate the idea of feeding the f-cking troll, that post was pure ownage andy. Props.
     
  11. danny317

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    ouch!!!

    andy-bad-moon-rising, that was a strong post.

    maybe i should start and andymoon vs trader_jorge thread :D
     
  12. tigermission1

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    That can't be good for my career prospects. I guess McCain it is...
     
  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You are busted for lying.

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    All of your other points were poorly phrased, wrong, and reflective of immature thought.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Are you so naive to believe that terrorists won't try to operate inside our country? Wow. WOW.

    Typical Obama supporter...
     
  15. danny317

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    come on TJ, you can hit harder than that. give him the kitchen sink!

    what is this huge secret that obama has that makes him to unelectable?
     
  16. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Moon flexes his internets muscles.

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  17. Northside Storm

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    I don't think that's muscle.

    I think that's fat.

    From owning you and then eating you up. :)
     
  18. danny317

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    so i guess i wont be starting that andy-bad-moon-rising vs trader-jorge thread if this is the best you have tj.

    id say rupert would predict andy-bad-moon-rising would win by landslide.

    cute kid though. "hercules, hercules..."
     
  19. Invisible Fan

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    Even without knowing that nugget, Obama's too conscious about not appearing soft on terrorism. Besides, that power is tempting to any president.

    Hopefully a Democrat Congress will force the issue and let it die, but I also think it's doubtful.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Executive Order 12680
    Administration of foreign assistance and related functions and arms export controls

    Signed: July 5, 1989
    Federal Register page and date: 54 FR 28995; July 10, 1989
    Amends: EO 11958, January 18, 1977; EO 12163, September 29, 1989


    part of the constitution it violates:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
     

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