Charlie is one of my favorite Texas Music singers. -------- Gossip on Dixie Chicks, Charlie Robison, Napster March 5, 2001, 12:50 pm PT During the Country Radio Seminar in Nashville last week, Charlie Robison told us that he and his wife, the Dixie Chicks' banjo-plucking Emily Robison, never get into fights -- except when it comes to Napster. "That's the only thing that my wife and I do go head-to-head [about]," Charlie says. "She's sold so many records, and she's so anti-Napster. I'm for Napster. "Last year, when the Beatles record came out - it was No. 1 for four, six weeks, something like that," he continues. "Like you can't find those songs anywhere else; like Beatles fans don't have those songs already. If you're a fan, you're going to go buy the record. You might download it and listen to it, but you're going to go buy the record. "When I was a kid, I would tape my favorite Judas Priest song off the heavy metal station. I'd listen to that song, but, I guarantee you, that was a for sure way for me to go buy the record. I definitely have mixed feelings, and they'd be more mixed if I knew when Napster did get shut down - or that they had to pay the record companies - that any of that money was ever going to trickle down to the artist. But that f#c%ing money is never going to get anywhere near the artists. So, as far as I'm concerned, they can go ahead and trade." Charlie's big buzz new album, Step Right Up is due April 10. And, last we checked, there were seven copies of his new single (a remake of NRBQ's "I Want You Bad") available for downloading at Napster. ------------------ One of those seven, is mine , i got it when there werer two. [This message has been edited by Ty_Webb (edited March 06, 2001).]
It seems to me that the Napster debate among artists is cut along the lines of how many records they have sold. It seems like the artists that are against Napster (i.e. Metallica) have sold a ton of records, while those who are for it have not sold as many. Has anyone else noticed this trend, or am I hallucinating again? And Ty_Webb...you've got damn good taste in Texas music! ------------------ "Blues is a Healer" --John Lee Hooker [This message has been edited by RocketMan Tex (edited March 06, 2001).]
You a Charlie fan too huh? I have seen him about 8 times at the Fabulous Satellite Lounge, speaking of which he will be back in April right about when his new album is due out. I think Charlie is right when he says that the artists will probably never see a dime. Something else I just learned is that Restaurants have to pay to play CD’s or the Radio during business hours, and it ain’t cheap. I never knew that before. Could the Record companies theoretically sue the makers of tape recorders and CD burners since their product is being used to facilitate the illegal distribution of copyrighted material? If you think about it, they are much worse than Napster. ------------------
Could the Record companies theoretically sue the makers of tape recorders and CD burners since their product is being used to facilitate the illegal distribution of copyrighted material? No, because those companies are not actively participating in the distribution and copying. Napster is (Gnutella and other similar services are not). Like you can't find those songs anywhere else; like Beatles fans don't have those songs already. If you're a fan, you're going to go buy the record. You might download it and listen to it, but you're going to go buy the record. If this were true, people wouldn't have gone crazy this weekend downloading all the songs they could off of Napster before it got shut down. If people were going to buy them anyway, they wouldn't care so much. ------------------ http://www.swirve.com ... more fun than a barrel full of monkeys and midgets.
That's pretty much how I feel too. Metallica are the ones getting the most pub. Elektra has them swinging from their nuts though. Many muli-million selling artists are pro-Napster--off the top of my head; members of Limp Bizkit, the Offspring, Motley Crue, and Public Enemy. These artists have all studied the issue, seen how the business works, and formed their own opinions. They all have pretty educated views on the subject. Why would they support this if it were costing them money? If the people that were downloading weren't going to buy any music to begin with, nobody's losing any money. They're downloading music they didn't plan to pay for anyway. If Napster were gone, that doesn't mean these people are going to march down to the store and buy all those songs. Maybe these aren't the particular people he's talking about.
"If Napster were gone, that doesn't mean these people are going to march down to the store and buy all those songs." I would be willing to buy a lot more music if it was: 1. reasonably priced. 15 bucks for a CD with 3 good songs is a rip off, no other way around it. As a consumer I am going to find other avenues to listen music, be it the radio, cable radio, streaming audio, or Napster. 2. If had more of a choice as to which songs i buy. That is what I love about napster, I can go out and get the songs I want and not have to pay for the extra bs..... The old adage, what goes around comes around, fits this whole issue, the music companies have been sticking it to the public for decades, now the public is doing the sticking back, to some extent. ------------------
Ty, If you had to pay a reasonable price per downloaded song on Napster (say $1 per song), would you pay the fee? Personally, I think the record companies made a mistake by not trying to partner with Napster. By shutting them down, the Napster audience will just move elsewhere, but if the record companies could've worked out a deal that would've allowed Napster users to download songs for free (or for a small fee) while the record companies got paid their royalties, we probably would've seen many of Napster's current users simply paying the fee to gain access to download songs. Even with a fee, I think a lot of Napster customers would've stayed with Napster rather than simply finding a new free music source. You'd still have some people searching out free music, of course, but not in as large of numbers, I would bet. But that's just what I think. I can't back it up with graphs or anything. ------------------ Houston Sports Board The Anti-Bud Adams Page
If the people that were downloading weren't going to buy any music to begin with, nobody's losing any money. Freak, Actually, this isn't true. Simple supply and demand dictates that if there's a larger supply of a given product, the value of the product declines. If people are making free copies of the song, the inherent value of the rights to sell the song decreases. Thus, the rightful owner of the music is losing money because of it. Besides, maybe some people are doing what you say. Others are not, though. People have come out and said that. Napster is aiding those people in committing a crime -- you don't see anything wrong with that? ------------------ http://www.swirve.com ... more fun than a barrel full of monkeys and midgets.
I would be willing to buy a lot more music if it was: 1. reasonably priced. 15 bucks for a CD with 3 good songs is a rip off, no other way around it. As a consumer I am going to find other avenues to listen music, be it the radio, cable radio, streaming audio, or Napster. 2. If had more of a choice as to which songs i buy. That is what I love about napster, I can go out and get the songs I want and not have to pay for the extra bs..... Let's try this with another product. I would be willing to buy a lot more new cars if they were: 1. reasonably priced. 20,000 bucks for decent car with a couple of extras is a rip off, no other way around it. As a consumer I am going to find other modes of transportation, be it buses, cabs, bikes, or stealing cars. 2. If had more of a choice as to which features to get. That is what I love about stealing, I can go out and get the car I want and not have to pay for the extra bs..... Do you see a problem with this? The key is that getting music through streaming audio, radio, and cable radio are all legal. (As is using a bus, cab, or bike) Downloading songs off Napster and stealing cares aren't. What Napster does is very simple. It lets people commit crimes from their home without any risk of getting caught and with no real penalties. And it shows that people's primary reason for not committing crime is not some kind of respect for the law, but the fearing of getting caught and going to jail or being fined. Simple question: If you could walk into a Best Buy one night, open a CD, copy it onto your own CD using a CD-Recorder they have, and put the original back in place, would you do it? Because that's exactly what you're doing from your home using Napster. ------------------ http://www.swirve.com ... more fun than a barrel full of monkeys and midgets.
shanna, I don't consider it a crime to download and listen to songs via napster anymore than I consider listening to the radio in my car, for FREE, a crime. I totally understand where you are coming from, I just don't agree. mrpaige, I would gladly pay a nominal fee to use napster, or maybe napster could advertise or find alternative means of income to raise money to accomodate the music companies. You are SO right that the music companies missed the boat on this whole napster deal, they could have made (and still can) make money hand over fist on this deal, but as usual they are going to try to soak their customers..... ------------------
For what it's worth...I downloaded two Powderfinger songs, played them a lot...and then went and bought the CD. I can't see the problem with it...the kind of music I like rarely gets played on the radio and this is a great way to hear it before buying it. ------------------
Well, What's to stop the kids from Buying the Album Burning it. . .and taking it back what is the difference? Work . . .you actually have to get off ya *ss to do this what pisses me off is how the INDUSTRY has clamped down on the ability to HEAR the album b4 you buy it. . .it was the rage for a while then it went only 2 select albums. . . . So if you get stuck with some BS You stuck . .. unless you can return it . . Which I think will be the next CLAMP down Rocket River ------------------
Shanna: Your car anology is a bit far fetched. You are speaking of a tangible item from a not-tangible. When a car is stolen, the dealership or individual is hurt. When you download music, the artist loses a fraction of the cost and the recording company takes the big hit, if any at all. Until the recording industry becomes more reasonable with their prices, they will continue to fight piracy on a large scale. ------------------ Nice guys finish last ... and im surely not going to finish last!
