Could someone please tell me some about him? I've always understood that he is of the pure point guard variety. How does he rate compared to JKidd (the top of this mold) and Francis in some of the key point guard categories like running the fast break, penetrating, court vision, and passing? Would Miller be a good fit for the Rockets if they chose to give Francis more time at the 2?
You've got to ask yourself if Francis fits our needs at the 2, especially when it comes to defense. Miller's stats this year, 13.6 pts and 6.7 assists. I don't know how we went to team like the Clips and averaged less assists then he did with Cleveland. IMHO, Miller doesn't have "It." The "It" I speak of is whatever drives players to succeed under pressure. In Cleveland, the pressure wasn't there and he did great. In LA, where people had high expectations and ESPN the mag put the clippers on the cover and pronounced them playoff bound, he folded under the pressure. In 4 years Francis has had 2 winning seasons, Miller has had exaclty 0.
I agree with Oski. Miller has a tendancy to be a lil overrated in these neck of the woods. The thing I dislike most about Miller, is his shooting. If Steve is going to be moved to the 2 (which I don't think he is), then I feel we need a more consistant threat from the outside at the PG.
Before last season...he was with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He averaged like 10 assists per game. He was a true point guard....... But then he was traded to the Clippers.......and he wasn't that great. Only about 7 assists per game......and he had a better team with him. Miller. He can't shoot. He makes weird layups. He has a big head. He is horrible at free throws. He can't play defense. I would still like to get him......
Andre *can* be great He is JKidd BEFORE JKIDD had a jumpshot well .. maybe not that good Unless Dre develops a Jump shot. . he needs to call Mugsy Bogues and Spud Webb up and ask to go on their fishing trips A PG without a Jumpshot is limited. Rocket River When u can stop and pop . . .the passing lanes just seem to open up more
I'm glad you rethought that because he does not have the passing ability of Jason Kidd, young or old. He is a decent point guard but not a future star. HE was the sexy "dark horse" candidate two years ago whenever people would talk about Steve and Baron Davis as being the next great PG's, so-called experts who wanted to make a splash would say stupid things like, "well, nobody talks about Andre Miller, but he might just be the BEST of ALL of them in the end!" Well, the bloom is off that rose. He's good, but not great, and it doesn't look like he ever will be.
How does a guy shoot 45% from the guard spot not be able to shoot? True he had a poor yr with all the contract driven players in La, but the guy is a creator, good mid range shooter/scorer and a smart player. You don't throw 10 asst by accident. A career 8asst vs 3to's is pretty good. Once he get back to a team concept(Utah) his numbers will go back through the roof.
Exactly! The clippers are a team that for some reason have not been able to put it together with all the talent they have (SOUNDS FAMILIAR HUH!) Although the have argubaully (sp?) one of the most young and talented teams they have not been able to mesh because of younger players wanting to pad their stats for more money and different things. Like SF his assist per game would be higher if players made their shots more. A.Miller put people in position to score they missed a whole lot of open jumpers. (Clippers dont have great shooters, they have talented athletes) I do believe Andre is very similar to J.Kidd when J.Kidd had just entered the league. If Andre goes to Utah, watch his stats sky rocket, I will bet anyone that he will be in the top 3 for assist. If he comes here with and we have a coach who knows X's and O's, SF and Yao will have great years as well. I really believe he has the tools, he just needs the right system. If Sterling would hire a top notch coach his clippers would perform much better than they have.
I think he shoots around 20% from 3 pt lane. That, and the fact that Miller takes a ton of shots off of drives in the paint or from 15 reinforce the fact that he is not very good from long range.
-Career 80% FT shooter. Don't let one game vs Rockets fool you. -Career 44% FG shooter. Francis is career 44% also. -I have no idea what his looks have anything to do with it Only flaw about Miller is his 3-pt %, career 23% He's a true point guard, without the 3-point threat. To me, he's a poor man's Bibby.
Well I never said Francis could shoot. That one game.......he shoots 20% from 3 point line. That's horrible. Fine fine......he would be nice to get. But I don't know how we could get him. I'd rather get Gary Payton.
Maybe the guy plays to his strength. If he can't or is not a good 3pt shooter , then why shoot them? Marion couldn't shoot 3's until last yr, but now he's better than anything we have. Its all about playing to the stregnth of yourself. Why would Shaq shoot 15 fters. Payton used to be a poor 3pt shooter, but improved over the yrs, but doesn't mean he's a poor shooter. Grant Hill never shot 3's but would drop 25 on your head from 15 ft.
So you would be ok with having someone whose man can constantly sag down on Yao (zone wise)? Its all about spacing. Big men have a hard time succeding when their shooters, who they find out of the double, can't knock down long range shots. If we end up keeping Posey and Griff at the 3 and 4, and moving Steve to the 2 (which probably won't happen), then it will be important that the new PG be able to knock down open shots.
His 3 point shot can be corrected, remeber he is young. Personally, I think he can shoot but its not shown because he spends 70 percent of his game on dishing dimes. That is what we want right? J. Kidd didnt have a consistent 3 point jumper in his younger days either..
Miller just needs to get out of the Gulag..away from Sterling.He's got an all around game,and is smart...a prototypical point without the great athleticism...but he gets it done.I'd like him up top with Francis at the 2.With Andre's size and ability to D up it just might be feasible..He definitely can run a team.
I'd love it if the Rockets could sign him up. He's not without flaws, but he is a great passer and perhaps the mix of Miller/Francis/Mobley/Posey at guard could be perfect. Sign on some veteran 3-point shooter SG/SF guy and your backcourt is set.
I was really high on Miller until this past season with the Clippers. Miller lead the NBA in assists in 2002. Coming off that season, he was expected to do big things with a Clipper line-up that included Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, and Corey Maggette. The Clips didn't do well and Miller's numbers went down despite the fact that he was playing with a lot more talent in L.A. than he was in Cleveland a couple years ago. As a result, his stock has fallen in my opinion. On the one hand, he's shown he can be a great true point guard. Unfortunately, last season begs one to question where his attitude is because as point guard, it was his job to lead the Clippers. That did not happen. I think Miller to the Rockets is a reach anyway because the Jazz are one of the teams with the most cap space available this off-season. Andre Miller played and liked playing for the University of Utah. You can be sure that the Jazz will throw a lot of money at Miller as Stockton's replacement this off-season.
he is a loser. period. for some reason, I like the ball in Jaric's hand more than Andre Miller's. someone in clippers forum post the fact that andre miller is a loser like he never win in college, play for US national team, ....etc..pretty interesteing argument. Yea, if he go to Jazz, Jazz won't be in playoff next yr
