I can imagine a PS4, but I think they'll play it smarter next time and follow the Nintendo model to console success. Use proven tech, keep costs reasonable and concentrate on making it fun rather than the cutting edge of technology. In a market where timetables are so important, you can't just hope every part of the console is available for manufacture. If PS3 isn't a complete disaster, they should be able to salvage their advantage in game titles/developers over Microsoft. Cell, with an Nvidia G80 chip is enough raw horsepower for a next gen console, and by that time they should have the kinks worked out. Die sizes will have gotten smaller, chip yields improved, lower power consumption means a smaller power supply. It's likely you could have all of the above and have an increase in the clock speeds of both chips in two or three years time.
The ps3 only has G73 derivative chip; the G80 is supposed to more powerful than what any of these consoles can put out. That thing is a monster and it is generation ahead of what is in the ps3. it was released almost a year later.
I know, but it available now, and would still be off the shelf tech by the time a PS4 were to come out.
For that Bozo to predict there would be no PS4 2 weeks after the launch of the PS3 is idiotic. The whole console competition is a marathon not a sprint. I'll be the first to say I have serious doubts about the success of the PS3, mainly because of pricing. But over the next 2-3-4 years, IF the gaming capabilities PS3 prove to be vastly superior to the other two, the PS3 could do quite nicely.
I doubt that, the PS3 will hit it's stride. Though if they dig themselves into too deep a hole, it is possible that it will be too late.
Ditto...and ditto to what the other member said about Cell and another GPU. I think that analyst is caught up with the hype that this system is make or break for Sony since so many products and divisions have been synergistically incorporated into the PS3. No matter what though, that's still way far off to determine.
How would Japan feel about that? A console war without Playstation? They hate XBOX don't they? So what will they do... will all of em buy Wii's? And how about the Final Fantasies, will those transfer over to Xbox?
I really don't pay attention to this stuff now, but isn't the Playstation division Sony's most (only?) profitable division/cash cow? I agree w/ the other posters, it's obivous Sony as a company has gone downhill. They used to be the premium consumer electronics brand, combining quality and style. Now they're just overpriced and mediocre.
i'm still waiting for a virtual reality game where i can play the hottest nba game in first person controll as whichever player i want. that would be awesome.
Apparantly you guys don't know much about Sony and neither do I, but their not going to go bankrupt over the ps3 or ps4 for that matter. It's like saying Microsoft will go bankrupt and fall off the face of this planet because their losing xxx billions on their xbox/360. Bashing Sony is the "in" thing to do....but you guys will eat your words next year when the A+ titles are released Where was that thread about how much $$$ Sony earned last quarter...maybe that'll stop some of this propaganda. I still remember the massive public outcry over the $500/$600 price tag, but it's still selling really well for such an expensive console. I figure the demand will die in January/February but that might not be the case. Their releasing alot of great titles in March 07 and Im not looking forward to purchasing three or four games in a month Shoo...I barely purchase a few games a year as it is. 07...Believe.
Some good points. If Sony can reuse the Cell architecture for the PS3, they can save a lot of money (Sony's probably spending an extra $30-$50 on the PS3 just to include the PS2 chipset). If the PS4 does not have a disc-drive, then they won't have to deal with a ~$200 disc drive that might not be necessary. They would just have to work together with Nvidia again for the GPU, which shouldn't be a problem. Assuming the PS3 isn't a complete disaster, Sony will probably be able to put together an effective design for the PS4 without losing too much money (as they are with the PS3). G70/G71 actually. RSX has twice the transistor count of a G73 AFAIK. Depends on how things turn out I suppose. If the Xbox brand continues to do poorly in Japan, then I would guess that most Japanese developers (such as SE) might only release their games on the PS3 and/or Wii. If they release on the PS3, then I don't know why the PS3 wouldn't get decent sales in Japan (and the world), meaning a PS4 could be "imagined." If developers put their games on the Wii, the Wii will probably dominate Japan (and maybe the world) before a PS4 could even come out. The gaming division has been one of their most profitable divisions in the past, but I don't believe it is the only one. You can look at it this way I guess. In the last fiscal quarter, the game division at Sony lost over $369M by itself. Sony also lost an additional $429M thanks to the battery fiasco. But in the end, the company made $14M for the quarter. So there has to be some big profits coming from somewhere, and it certainly isn't the games division (not right now anyway). Their movie division usually does pretty well I believe (thanks to movies like Spider-man, Da Vinci Code, Casino Royale, etc.). Their electronics division has started doing much better in the last few quarters I believe. It used to be in the red a lot IIRC, but they've started making some decent profits recently I believe, thanks to the Bravia TVs and sales of Sony Erickson phones (unless that is in another division, can't remember). The battery recall hurt them from making a good profit in the last quarter though (profits at $68M, down from $412M in Q1 IIRC). They didn't make much money last quarter, although I guess the fact that they did make money is somewhat encouraging. In the previous quarter (Q1), I believe they made like $281M, despite the game division losing $233M. In the last FY, I think they made over a billion dollars. They still have a ways to go before reaching the profit levels of some of their competitors (Samsung made like $1.6B in the last quarter alone, and Microsoft...well, yeah), but I don't think the PS3/PS4 would directly lead to bankruptcy for Sony (unless they screw up more like they did with the batteries).
the most logical step for the next playstation would probably be a console w/o any disc media. I would think everything is downloadable content, which is kind of hard to imagine if you factor in the sad state of american broadband in general.
I would imagine he probably puts as much time into his passion (gaming) as you do with fantasy leagues and in general being a putz online. glass houses nomar glass houses.
