Amar'e VS. Lee

Yeah, Lee hustles more than Amar'e and rebounds better too. Amar'e is deadliest on the P n' R and Lee isn't.

Unless they can add a premier passer the Knicks are going regret this

 

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I think Amare is obviously the bigger name which makes him a much more attractive FA acquisition than just signing Lee. Now the Knicks can say "We went out and got somebody!" instead of "We brought someone back from an extremely ****ty team!" But if you look at styles of play, I think that Lee fit better into what they were trying to do as a team. Whereas Amare more than likely needs a dynamic PG or playmaker to get him going, Lee was a garbageman and did the dirty work that not many others on that NYK team wanted to do. Besides, with D'Antoni's style of play, I think having a superior rebounding PF is much more important than having a finisher PF. The wildcard is, of course, how well D'Antoni can incorporate Amare into a cohesive offensive system, which I think he can do but they'll need a better PG (or TMac to return to point forward form).

 

Amare is hands-down much better than David Lee. Not even close.

 

the stats say different. It's kinda close. We'll see how good Amar'e is without those great passes from Nash.

 

Amare may have those stats with Nash, but Lee also has those stats with D'Antoni. That's just as much as a boost.

 

its pretty much official now according to espn. so we will see. i think he is better then lee but im not sure by how much. amare being on a better team and lee being on a crappy team kind of clouds my thoughts on it i think.

 

If you consider durability, numbers, and cost, David Lee is better than Yao.

Do you want to trade Yao for Lee?

Didn't think so, just like you wouldn't trade Amare for Lee.

 

Yeah, I was just talking about this with my friend. I think this is a huge mistake by NYC. Check out Lee's and Amar'e's shooting numbers back-to-back: http://tinyurl.com/28nceo9

 

two years ago people said the same thing about T-mac.

Yao hasn't lived up to what he gets paid. I hope he can start.

 

The stat you are missing is Ws & Ls. Lee has put up stats on a run and gun careless team who hasn't played a meaningful game in years. For all of his weaknesses, Amare has produced time and time-again in the regular season and playoffs despite being the focal point of opposing defenses.

If you are just looking at stats, you aren't seeing anything. Watch the games. You can't use NBA stats like baseball. Doesn't work that way.

For the sake of clarity, I also think the Knicks are making a big mistake. Amare isn't worth $100 million, especially with the injury concerns and his selfish attitude. I would not want him on the Rockets.

 

Okay, let's look at the stats.

• Amare has been in the league for 8, David 5, and they're both 27. In that time, Amare has been a 5x All-Star and Rookie of the Year, while David 1 time All-Star.
• Why only 1 time All-Star for David? Because New York kicked out their best guys to get ready for this summer and all of a sudden, David's the #1 option.
• What was David's PPG before that? 16 PPG, then 10 the next year, 10 the next, and 5 his rookie year.
• How about Amare's PPG? 20~ every single season (except his injury and rookie year).
• David is a better passer because he's had to become one. He doesn't have the offensive prowess of Amare. When you have Steve Nash on your team, you're not looking for Amare to pass, you're looking to him to finish, which he does and does consistently.
• David is a better rebounder, I will give him that. But he lacks the explosive athleticism of Amare. David averages .5 blocks a game, whereas Amare averages 1.4. That's of huge importance, have a PF/C who can block shots.

So clearly David's were padded the previous years, and playing for the Knicks - who play even faster and looser than PHX for the last couple seasons - helped. David is a hard worker, a great rebounder, and a good passer. But he simply doesn't have the pure talent of Amare, I'm sorry. There very few players who can dominate inside offensively and Amare is one of them. He has been for the last 6 years. David has a breakout season and all of a sudden he's better than Amare? No, I don't think so.

 

Amare is longer and has demonstrated that, at least in a contract year, he can be effective defensively when he tries. Lee has not yet show much on that end.


However, Lee was arguably put into a worse position. Amare at least had other guys who are decent defensively-- Lopez, Hill, etc. Lee was just on a team with bad defensive karma.

We'll see how things play for the Knicks.

 

They are both poor defenders. Amare probably a little worse. Sure he puts up blocks and stuff, but most of the tiem, thats about it. He's lost on rotation, doesn't block out for rebounds, just seems really lazy.

Lee is considerably a much better rebounder than Amare. Lee also has a better back to the basket game. Amare is better off the ball, while Lee is better with the ball.

According to this website valleyofthesuns.

 

I didn't say he was better but David is the better value. Lee also hasn't had the luxury of having one of the best PG's to lace em' up giving him easy baskets.

It's kinda the same argument of Scola vs. Amar'e. One has limitless talent and the other just gets **** done. No excuses.

 

That's completely different! With Yao you have the nation of China behind the team! When will we ever see an NBA player the size of Yao with his same skill yet? Never! That said, Lee would be a much better fit for this team than Amare ever would be. He fits in really well chemistry wise and he is a great team player.

 

But don't you see that it's because he's been playing on a bad team that he should be a standout. It pads your stats and makes you look better by being surrounded with lesser talent.

Lee's already 27 and he only just recently had his breakout season (to a lesser extent, the season before that) even though the Knicks have been bad for a while.

When Amare was 21, the guy was averaging 26 PPG here, and that's with sharing the ball with Nash, Marion, and JJ. Who did David have to share the ball with last season? Gallinari, Harrington, and T-Mac?

C'mon now. Think about it.

 

So with this argument you say Amare is better Bosh since Amare plays on a winning team.