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Amare Stoudemire vs Chris Bosh

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OldSchool34, Jan 22, 2010.

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Who's the better player between the two?

  1. Amare Stoudemire

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  2. Chris Bosh

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  1. OldSchool34

    OldSchool34 Member

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    I'd like to know all of your opinions on who's the better player between the two? I've always said Amare has been the superior player and I still stand by it. I've always believed that Chris Bosh has been one of the more overrated players in the league and a couple of weeks ago Gary Payton had said the same thing. I would like to know some of your arguments for one another, oh and don't give me that Amare has Nash B.S, because Amare was a 20+ PPG scorer before Nash was around.
     
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  2. ChrisBosh

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    There is no doubt that Chris Bosh is a better player than Amare, there is quite a gap in my opinion, also health wise, one guy has had serious knee issues which will come to play when he gets older.

    Both lack skills on the defensive end (don't know if its a matter of motivation or what, but both are below average...atrocious at times), its always been the case for these two, for me its a matter of who is better on offense. Amare has always played on a better team, so I don't know if he gets as many opportunities as CB4 to put up numbers. Someone will have to do research on that.

    I think that CB4's perimeter game and ability to get by his defender puts him ahead of Amare, in the post I think they are about the same. So I would always pick CB4 over Amare at this point in time........

    Neither of these two are franchise players......both are secondary pieces....
     
  3. Lovemachine2000

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    Not much of a competition so far according to the votes.

    But really, Bosh is a more complete and versatile player. Amare is a monster in the paint, but Bosh is like a small forward in a PF's body. And Amare has Nash, who makes everyone's stats look good (read "inflated").
     
  4. OldSchool34

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    Really, I'm not even comparing who's better this season, because you guys are right, It's not close if you are talking about specifically this season. I'm just saying who's been more successful, who's more talented and who's better. Let's face it, the main reason why I say Amare is better is because he shows up when it matters the most....the playoffs. Where was Bosh in the 2007 series against the Nets? He was getting shut down by MIKKI MOORE. I'm sorry, but that is just flat out pathetic. Want to know something even more pathetic? He shot 39% in that series.

    Yes, and If you are wondering I for sure hate Chris Bosh because he's a hypocrite, I'll explain if you need me too but accusing Shaq of cheating, because he was butt sore he scored 40, is probably the biggest panzy move I've ever seen in NBA history.

    I'm sorry Amare dominated Dirk in 2005, while Bosh got shut down by Mikki Moore in 2007. It was the past, but he hasn't been any better of a playoff performer since
     
  5. A_3PO

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    Give me Bosh. Keep Amare. Amare might have as much talent, but most teams would take Bosh over him.
     
  6. Zboy

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    Chris Bosh has better skill sets. He can create his own offense. He also is a better defender. But he is soft. When push comes to shove, like it does in the playoffs, he will disappear. You can be physical with him and take him out of his game. He lacks the killer instinct.

    Amare cant create offense but he is one of the best finishers out there who also has a very good jumper. If you put him on the right team as a finisher, he can be a nightmare to guard. If you put him on a team without a good creator he becomes a lot less effective. Also, although he does come up with timely blocks in the clutch, his defense his downright pathetic

    Both players have their flaws (Amare a lot more) but I can count on Amare in playoffs because of his fearlessness, which is why I would chose him.
     
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  7. kaleidosky

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    "Bosh sucked in 1 series, therefore here is my conclusion."

    Your poor analytical skills make me want to ignore this thread completely, but I'll post to point out that:

    a) Bosh has only played in 2 playoff series
    b) He averaged 24 and 9 on 47% shooting in his 2nd series (after a poor but not horrible 17.5 and 9 on 40% shooting in his 1st, which you reference)


    I love how you ignored the more recent playoff series.


    Oooh ooh let me be OldSchool34

    Amare Stoudemire sucks. Come on, he only averaged 14 points and 8 rebs in a PLAYOFF series. That's terrible. Chris Bosh went for 24 and 9 on 47% shooting.





    Yeah overall, they're pretty close. I'd take Bosh for his better physical status (knee, eye of amare) and better outside shooting and range. As the other posters have said, both are below average defensively.
     
  8. Shroopy2

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    I know its Bosh/Amare but I thought Bosh outplayed best center in the world Dwight Howard in the 2008 Olympics. Howard got numbers just from being the the physical specimen he is. Bosh outskilled Howard and got the same efficiency. And defended the pick & roll way better. Bosh seemed to know what he was doing whereas Howard got a bunch of incidental athletic stats just for being big. Or maybe I thought Dwight Howard should have decimated his counterparts. But thats when I knew Bosh was a good player.
     
  9. OldSchool34

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    I stopped reading after you said that wasn't a horrible series. So don't expect replies from me anytime soon bud.

    I don't believe Bosh is the better defender at all. He may be the smarter defender but Amare is the one that blocks shots. I don't know what Bosh does on defense, pick n roll? That's about it really. I think Amare can create his own offense, it just would not be as efficient without a PG creating for him. I mean, he was capable of scoring 20+ PPG with Barbosa as the starting PG. His FG% was just worse, by 10%. Although, I do believe both of these guys are mediocre defenders at best. I still think you should give the edge to Amare.
     
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    That's great. I'm glad you totally ignored the part where I pointed out how if you only analyze 1 series of Amare's, you can make statements about how terrible he is, too
     
  11. Asian Sensation

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    I'll take Bosh. Amare could be so much better especially on the defensive side of the ball. He's got the physical and natural tools to be a defensive force but he's made minimal to zero improvement since he's entered the league.
     
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    +1 also plus the fact that he's had so many injuries which may or may not have affected him.
     
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    Easily Bosh
     
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    Bosh is arguably the best PF in the league this season.
     
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    stoudemire is cool but most of his points are from nash dimes.. Bosh is the total package, he can do it all, defense, offense, jumper, post moves rebounder and blocks and intangibles.. theres a reason Bosh got the bulk of the minutes at Center over Dwight Howard in the Beijing Olympics
     
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    Bosh is easily the most overrated player in the nba, the guy simply is not a winner

    I'll take Amare every time over him
     
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  18. tomjc

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    I agree with that, but I would still take Bosh over Amare.
    If you look at Bosh he had to carry his team by himself after Carter left and was left with scrubs like Jalen Rose, Morris Peterson, some European lightweights and of course the TJ Ford/Jermaine Oneil/Shawn Marion fiasco.

    Amare had STEVE NASH. Conversation over.

    I think the injury took away a lot of his explosiveness and versitility, with Bosh, he needs a new situation to keep him motivated. Bosh on the Rockets and adding another piece if Rockets don't let McGrady go (they'll prob keep Tmac and let his contract expire in my opinion), and add another piece, it'll be like Garnett to the Celtics.
     
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    What kind of an argument is that? Amare has been a winner since he entered the league and has put up the numbers Bosh puts up on a terrible team. For 2 guys with similar career numbers, I'm gonna take the guy on the better team every time.
     
  20. tomjc

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    with that line of argument you would take the Twolves Garnett and the Grizzles Gasol over Amare?
     

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