I just watched a HBO story on their first fight for like the 3rd time. I am not a boxing fan, But damn this show moves me every time. Frasiar was such a bad ass, hell so was Ali but I think the better man one, and I am sure that Frasiar could have Whooped Tyson if they ever fought at their prime anyone else see?? ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
Geez I dunno. They are both the same type of fighters. Short strong guys who have to get close. It would have been a heck of a fight that's for sure! ------------------ The ox is slow but the Earth is patient.
man i bet if I titled this thread Boxing it might have gotten a bit more love thanks for your opinion peace ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
The thing is, Tyson is just a bully who runs away and cries when people return the favor. Frazier went toe to toe with Muhammad Ali. Now, if it were an ear-biting contest, Tyson might have a chance.
And I did see the show you are talking about. They made it sound amazing. All the hype that went with it and the passion involved. I would have loved to have been able to experience something like that. ------------------ The ox is slow but the Earth is patient.
btw VOR, what show is this? I'd like to check it out. Do they show actual footage? Is it like "When We Were Kings"?
They show highlights from all 15 rounds. plus commentary from all of sprots pop culture and of course boxings luminaries. there are behind the scenes shots, commentary from frasiar(lots of it) I think there was a little from Ali(but with his sickness what do you expect) tons of backgroound from the olympics to clay changing his name. the aftermats civil rights. all kinds of stuff in a word it is Riviting ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
Also, the way they kept coming back at each other over and over till the 15th round. No one knew who would win, not even till 15. That knockdown in 15 was frikin amazing.. even more amazing is that they were both hospitalized after that fight. as Frasiar kept saying : "I was willing to die in the ring that night" ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
Its a shame that boxing has turned into the scam that it is now. Bad judges and bad promoters are part of the reason. But the biggest reason, there are too many damn champions. Boxing was a great sport when Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton were all fighting for that one belt. I am glad to have been there and experienced how great boxing used to be. ------------------ "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- (Aldous Huxley)
ali beat himself in the first fight, and i think he proved who the better boxer was in the following 2 fights between them. ------------------ http://www.democrats.com mgh 1925-2001
Frazier has been a real @$$ since, talking about Ali's medical condition and saying idiotic things like, if Ali is the better fighter then how come I'm not the one that was beaten stupid. Total lack of class from the man who had all of the class before Ali whupped him the econd time 'round. ------------------ "Of course, thats just my opinion, I could be wrong" -- Dennis Miller
Frazier...Schmazier Foreman was the one who Ali was afraid to fight! Go rent this... <a href="http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/960118/1_18_96.html">When We Were Kings</a> Do it now...tonight! And tell your wife/girlfriend you don't know what it is about, that you rented it because it won an Oscar for best documentary (which is true). No matter if you like boxing or not, rent this documentary. You and your girlfriend will be mesmerized. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited April 12, 2001).]
watch the thing HBO(the one I mention) did before you talk this sheit!! Ali betrayed Frasiers friendship. he cvalled him a Tom publicly often, and publicly. he amde the man an enemy to the black people. imagine if your rival at worl began calling you a racist, and no one you knew wanted to be seen with you. immagine how that effects your kids. this show interviewed the families. Frasiars son was always in fightd because Ali called his dad a tom. that is messed up Frasier got Ali re-instated in boxing. not some money man, but his cheof rival helped him out. and how was he repayed?? betrayal. and yes Ali whooped ass in the next 2, but those didnt matter. that is like a kid asking for a re-do. Frasier spent a week in the hospital after the fight. Imagine fighting not only Ali, but also the whole worlds media. total BS. and something dirty definately happened in the later fights. too fishy too much don king. and yes I saw the documentary. that didnt cover the human sude as well as the recent HBO show, I think it was behind the lines or something like that I think Ali was kind of a dick for the way he acted. and for all the smack talkin Ali did his WHOLE life, he deserves alot more than he is getting even now. ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
