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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Oct 10, 2006.

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  1. Faos

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    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7h3GPc_yMCE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7h3GPc_yMCE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
     
  2. rodrick_98

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    when did youtube roll out the over 18 verification thing?

    this is twice today i've seen it.


    nice ad though
     
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    If this is a real commercial paid for Republicans, I'd be very scared right now.
     
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    EDIT:

    I decided that sinking to Faos' level of ignorace is demeaning to my own standards and deleted my original post.


    "Responsibility is the product of definite social arrangements."
    --Charles Frankel

    Note that Frankel calls for social arrangements, not propaganda.
     
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  5. Faos

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    I posted a link to a politcal video made by a well known director. Just a link without any commentary on my part. My level of ignorance? Get over yourself. :rolleyes:
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    It looks like others have followed the President's lead in lying about what Democrats ideas are in fighting terrorism.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    yay for you.

    Thank god. Your "commentary" has shown itself repeatedly without merit, intelligence, or integrity. Linking to this type of disgusting disengenuous diatribe is despicable, and demeaning to your own pathetic excuse of a cause.

    Is incredible.

    I am. It took a while, but I managed.
     
  8. arno_ed

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    Wait are you guys telling me these type of video's actually work, and make the republicans more popular???? :confused:

    So the people who see this do not fall on the ground laughing, because of the stupidity. :confused:

    If this video works, the people are even more stupid then i thought. :(
     
  9. lalala902102001

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    Basically this is what our media is telling us: it's either the Democrats' or the Republicans' fault that North Korea has gone nuclear. So, at the end, it's our fault that this world has become a lot more dangerous.
     
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    Clinton's agreements with North Korea were basically broken since day one. He did squat to stop their progress.

    Look into it. At least with Bush's efforts we've got 4 other countries in the discussion, including China -who seem to be majorly committed to making it hard for Kim "Menta Ly" Il to keep this up.

    Sorry to be truthful.


    Scared Yet? :D
     
  11. Oski2005

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    How come that video doesn't show that Donald Rumsfeld was on the board of directors of the company that sold NK 2 nuclear power plants?

    Scared yet?
     
  12. mc mark

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    The only thing I'm scared of is your ignorance.

    Some basic facts via josh.

    The 1994 crisis came about because the North Koreans were producing weapons-grade plutonium. Under the Agreed Framework, they agreed to shutter the plutonium production facility and put the already produced plutonium under international oversight.

    In return, the US promised aide, help building lightwater reactors (which don't help with bombs) and diplomatic normalization.

    That agreement kept the plutonium operation on ice until the end of 2002.

    President Bush came to office wanting to pull out of the agreement and did so when evidence surfaced suggesting that the North Koreans were secretly trying to enrich uranium (a separate path to the bomb).

    The bomb that went off yesterday was made with plutonium, the same stuff that was off-limits from 1994-2002. In all likelihood some of the same stuff that was on ice from 1994-2002.

    To the best of my knowledge, no one thinks the North Koreans are close to having enough uranium to make a nuclear weapon that way. And it's not even completely clear they were ever trying to enrich uranium.

    So Clinton strikes a deal to keep plutonium out of the North Koreans' hands. The deal keeps the plutonium out of reach for the last six years of Clinton's term and the first two of Bush's. Bush pulls out of the deal. Four years later a plutonium bomb explodes.

    Clinton's fault, right?
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    You do realize that Clinton also was using other nations like China, S. Korea, and Japan as part of their negotiations as well don't you? The difference is that the U.S. would also engage directly with the N. Koreans in addition.
     
  14. Faos

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    Most importantly did Clinton have Albright give Kim jun Il an Jordan autographed basketball or not and what would that ball be worth today?
     
  15. Faos

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    It's obvious you've gotten over yourself...why else would you keep replying in this thread?

    Btw, it's spelled: "disingenuous".
     
  16. SamFisher

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    You forgot to mention that in 1994, the other component of the "appeasement" was the mobilization of 50,000 additional troops to South Korea (more than doubling US forces there), news of which was "leaked" to Kim.

    I'm trying to think what GWB has done w/r/t troop levels in South Korea, since NK started brazenly and openly makng bombs - oh that's right, absolutely nothing, the troops are/were too busy sitting around the desert chasing nonexistent WMD's, and taking heavy losses for undefined reasons at this point other than political expediency.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Slowly but surely
    Things like YouTube etc will replace news

    Rocket River
     
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    You've heard it here first folks.


    Scared Yet? :D


    I love the know it alls on this board. No really, I do.
     
  19. Faos

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    I don't understand the thin skin here. What's the difference between this video and an SNL skit bashing Bush or any other politician for that matter? This isn't a paid commercial, is it?

    From Drudge (I know, roll your eyes...)

    **Exclusive**

    The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained an exclusive copy of a "scary" campaign advertisement created by Hollywood producer and director David Zucker that was intended to be used by GOP organizations in the closing weeks of the 2006 campaign.

    However, the advertisement was deemed "too hot" by GOP strategists all across Washington, DC who have refused to use it!

    In the ad, Zucker, producer of SCARY MOVIE 4, recreates former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's 2000 visit to North Korea. During the visit, Secretary Albright presented North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il with a basketball autographed by former NBA superstar Michael Jordan.

    An actress playing Secretary Albright is shown presenting Kim Jong Il with the Michael Jordan basketball, painting the walls of Osama bin Laden's Afghanistan cave and turning a blind eye to suicide bombers. In one scene her skirt rips as she changes the tire of a Middle Eastern dictator's limousine.

    One GOP strategist said "jaws dropped" when the ad was first viewed. "Nobody could believe Zucker thought any political organization could use this ad. It makes a point, but it's way over the top."

    Zucker is the producer and director of comedies such as "Airplane" and "The Naked Gun." In 2004, Zucker, a longtime Democrat, embraced the Republican Party based on concerns he had about national security issues and voted for President George W. Bush.
     
  20. NewYorker

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    problem with UTube is that once copy-writing becomes an issue, as well as the fact that it becomes a source of "media" it will become like any other media outlet. Limited by special interests groups and sensitivites.

    The idea of user generate content is alluring - but only if it's the most watched content that's unfiltered or censored.

    I doubt that will continue to be the case.
     

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