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Afghanistan's dirty little secret

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

    This is appalling on so many levels. I do not even know how to respond.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/29/INF21F2Q9H.DTL#ixzz0yVEeCqRQ
     
  2. RocketRaccoon

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    Although I believe this is old news, I don't know what the Koran says about this.
     
  3. AMS

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    I believe the Taliban were actually against this practice of bacha baazing...
     
  4. AMS

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    The Quran forbids homosexuality, and also forbids child molestation.
     
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    It is appalling. And apparently it is not an isolated phenomenon, but happens on a large scale.
     
  6. RocketRaccoon

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    So I'm going to assume they're not Taliban or any extreme Islamic group. They seem to be just continuing a different, long lived tradition.

    I'm not agreeing with them, but I'm not going to sit here and condemn someone's tradition or history that I don't understand.

    Now if they're being hypocritical and are beheading gays, then I'll call them out. Until then I'll let world's view take care of this.

    Thanks for your response though.
     
  7. KingCheetah

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    I've heard about this for years, but it seems like most of the major news sources are staying away from this uh... highly charged subject. I may be wrong on this, but I think SF Chron is about the biggest to do a full story on Afghanistan's little cultural problem.
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    Would you condemn some rich man fondling your son? If yes, then you should condemn this.
     
  9. RocketRaccoon

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    In America, he'd wish he was dead.

    But I think I would have a different perception if I was living in Afghanistan.
     
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    Elaborate more on this point.
     
  11. Steve_Francis_rules

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    You're not willing to go out on a limb and say sodomizing little boys is wrong?
     
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    Wow, had no idea Frontline did a show on this.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    You could even say is it... wide spread. Hay-oo!
     
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    Boy was that cheeky.
     
  16. RocketRaccoon

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    Gosh, I'm starting to feel redundant.

    YES!!!!! Sodomizing little boys is wrong. ABSO****INGLUTELY wrong. And if one of those Afghan men came to America and pulled that crap with my family, he'll be history, as in six feet under. And probably by my hands I might add.

    Didn't you get that from my previous post to Azadre or do I need to draw a damn picture?
     
  17. Mathloom

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    They take boys, they trade drugs, they kill people, yet they're cited as an Islamic country lol ain't that some ****
     
  18. RocketRaccoon

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    In the simplest of terms, which is probably the only way I can:

    Walk a mile in my shoes.

    Do I need to elaborate further?
     
  19. B-Bob

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    Aren't those the pillars of Islam?

    Sincerely,
    I was educated by reading the threads in this forum.
     
  20. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I hadn't seen your previous post to Azadre before I posted.
     

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