1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Afghanistan 2021

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. astros123

    astros123 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,992
    Likes Received:
    1,867
    Images like these just show you how big of scum the right wing truly is in America. We have thousands of brave american soliders at harms work doing gods work and the right wing scum take the opportunity for political jokes while the enemy is watching. It always baffles me to see how closely aligned the trumpers and right wingers are with literally every facist regime in world history.

    All the right wing scumbags on foxnews were yelling for sending 10-20k troops to secure kabul which would have resulted in thousands of deaths. The US army hasnt even been able to secure the road that goes from the embassy to the airport since 2018. The ARMY tried this in 2009 when they send 100k troops to secure baghdad and it failed. The right wing "Conservatives" are nothing but a resistance party who has no care for American lives. Its all propaganda non stop
     
    AleksandarN, DaDakota and ROCKSS like this.
  2. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    79,497
    Likes Received:
    27,719
  3. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    3,176
    Likes Received:
    3,969
    Yea..it was the right move. You want to house them for the rest of their lives? F that. War is over. POWs go home.

    Taliban were always going to retake the country if we left. Moving the military out before shutting the embassy and getting all civilians out was dumb. Getting out is 100% the right move. The execution of said maneuver was/is dog doodoo.
     
  4. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    33,184
    Likes Received:
    21,046
    The military was already moving out for the past year. This narrative has been played out with people just speaking from their ass.

    How about releasing potential Taliban fighters the size of 1/4th the entire US Marine infantry population after we have moved out with all personnel and Afghan friendlies?
     
    DaDakota, ROCKSS and Nook like this.
  5. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    3,176
    Likes Received:
    3,969
    Kabul didn't fall a year ago.... so what immediate impact did they have? The US military presence was holding them back from taking the remaining major cities. Bagram closed early July and the Taliban started their final push. You think they roll into Jalalabad and Kabul if we still had Bagram... HELL NO...
     
    TWS1986 and Astrodome like this.
  6. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Insider Newsletter™ 2X Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    36,348
    Likes Received:
    17,438
    Soldiers...healthcare personnel...essential workers.

    First in line to be sung high praises, only to be chewed up and spit out by Cons because they don't want to foot the long term people costs of their mercenary policies.

    Still have a few generation of vets who will need America's support and trillions of taxpayer dollars long after our bases and weapons are swept away by the shifting sands.
     
  7. TheresTheDagger

    Joined:
    May 20, 2010
    Messages:
    9,488
    Likes Received:
    6,676
  8. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    16,953
    Likes Received:
    2,728
    Except Obama would not have the balls to withdraw at all. Obama would cut a fine figure and would spin things better.
     
  9. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    16,953
    Likes Received:
    2,728
    The Repugs only care about the next midterms as instructed by their billionaire patrons
     
  10. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    42,661
    Likes Received:
    68,143
    I will be curious if this really damages Biden at all. In the short term he is getting negative press but I am not sure it will matter in a month or six months. A lot of Americans just wanted out of the Middle East and Biden did what Trump and Obama and Bush didn’t do.
     
    JuanValdez, joshuaao, TWS1986 and 2 others like this.
  11. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    4,926
    Likes Received:
    3,427
    Depends how shitty it gets in Afghanistan in the next weeks/months I suppose. Those scenes from the airport are already going to get the Saigon treatment. Still a lot TBD I think.

    Outcomes range from Taliban keeping up this “new image of the taliban” front indefinitely to “Clarissa Wards head on a pike.”
     
    Nook likes this.
  12. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    79,497
    Likes Received:
    27,719
    NBA fans love Billionaires
    Without them, who's going to pay for the players ?

    Communism doesn't work. Look at their basketball teams.
     
    basso likes this.
  13. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Insider Newsletter™ 2X Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    36,348
    Likes Received:
    17,438
    Yeah, it's always been about the economy. Things have been looking extra bubbly on the asset front.

    Fed unemployment stims will end on Labor Day and the whole forebearance thing is coming to a head soon.

    Covid is already extending OOO work in large tech companies till at least 2022.

    Supply chain woes and intl. shipping costs are still rising, so prices will be higher from supply limited goods as well as potential inflation cues, which should be good in theory, provided that people can afford it and pay those prices...they might not be able to.

    There's a lot of things a shitload of more money earlier this year can't cover.

    Surprised the dumptruck talks have been stalling more from internal Dem bickering than Republican obstruction. Good ol moderates v progressives know how to shoot themselves in the foot and still write a check to pay themselves for it.
     
    ROCKSS, Nook and tinman like this.
  14. txtony

    txtony Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    15,039
    Likes Received:
    10,502
    I don’t think it will. The right policy with bad execution of it. We will soon move on to more pressing and important things and are happy we are no longer there.
     
    Nook likes this.
  15. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    44,962
    Likes Received:
    41,830
    While republicans and their right wing news sources (facebook, youtube, bloggers, fox and oann) are positioning this as the "worst military fiasco of all time"...

     
  16. ROCKSS

    ROCKSS Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    2,704
    Likes Received:
    830
    I have to wonder, when the evacuations are over will we start an air strike to take out the US assets that were taken by the Taliban? Getting to Afghanistan will now be logistically harder since we have no close friendlies (I think) so the closest approach would be from an aircraft in the sea
     
  17. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    13,193
    Serious question: had a dozen or so Afghan people not made the decision to try to hold onto a wing of a jumbo jet that would ascend to 20,000 feet thinking they could survive that trip, what would the media coverage of the withdraw be today?

    How many people are killed daily due to war in the Middle East? Afghanistan alone? How many have died at the airport during evacuations?

    Living under Taliban rule will suck for Afghans. However it’s another repressive, religious fundamental, brutal, and corrupt regime in a world filled with autocratic regimes. We have our own problem with that here in the US where 35% of the country celebrates Putin and wants to live under Christian Old Testament Sharia Type law.

    The world sucks and it especially sucks in the Middle East. But I see this whole episode as Americans getting frantic about flooding in the Amazon when their own house is taking on water.
     
    #777 dobro1229, Aug 24, 2021
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2021
    Andre0087 and Ubiquitin like this.
  18. SamFisher

    SamFisher Virtuous

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    51,732
    Likes Received:
    24,018
    This will probably go down as like the most successful military/humanitarian airllift of all time, not that you would figure this out from reading the NYT.
     
    txtony and dobro1229 like this.
  19. HardenVolumeOne

    Joined:
    May 3, 2020
    Messages:
    4,296
    Likes Received:
    4,581
    But I thought Jen said…….

     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    111,209
    Likes Received:
    16,679
    No we don't and this post is not funny, Billionaires are literally KILLING people and ****ING this country.

    DD
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now