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Adelman Thread -- Remember why we brought him here

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Jan 26, 2009.

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  1. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    Remember When? -- Flash back to summer 2007. We just lost to Utah in Game 7 on our home floor. Our offense was too predictable, relying on Tmac's jumpers and Yao's post play. We didn't have enough talent or offensive creativity. Neither Tracy nor Yao were good enough to close.

    Enter Adelman. He is brought in to diversify our offense, bring in a team concept, motion and passing. Progress was made in 07-08, but injuries marred a possible playoff run. Questions about health, Tmac's willingness to take it to the hole, and overall team talent.

    And now -- we are in January 2009. Regarding talent, we have enough to compete with anyone. We've battled health issues, but are close to a return of all pieces. From here, I think it's on Adelman. He has to force the team concept. Yes, I know, this is a players league, a star's league. But he has to run it like he sees it.

    1. We can't act like Tmac is a MVP caliber talent anymore. He is a good option in a team concept. He's not the best bet to close out a close game because he pulls up for too many jumpers (no, that's not based on last night).

    2. Among Yao, Tmac, Scola, Artest, Alston, Wafer, Battier, there's enough talent and firepower.

    3. Don't be afraid to run plays for Scola, Artest, Alston, Wafer --- even when Tmac and Yao are on the floor. The guys can play. If we establish their role in the offense, doesn't life get easier for Tracy and Yao? You need look no further than Kobe and the Lakers. How far have the other players come? (Granted, Kobe's the ultimate closer . . .)

    4. Everyone needs to get in Tmac's ear. It's not on you. It's not on you. It's not on you. Everyone, including Tmac, needs to get the "It's all on me" crap out of their heads. He doens't need to play hero and everyone doesn't need to defer to him.

    The Phil Jackson's of the world have finessed such situations and made it work. So, I put the rest of the season on Adelman. His resume says he can do this. I think we know the type of talent and effort we're going to get out of this crew.

    I'll be very focused on coaching from this point forward. So far, I think Adelman has done a great job in keeping us afloat, in contention. In many respects, that was the easy part. Now, let's see if he can get us to function together and break our old habits of relying on solely Tmac and Yao.
     
    #1 Rileydog, Jan 26, 2009
  2. iconoclastic

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    It's on Adelman!
     
    #2 iconoclastic, Jan 26, 2009
  3. dachuda86

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    We have the talent... the coach... so what if tmac isn't what he was...


    guess what... what have the ability to grow from this point and be ready for anything. The Lakers are overrated...
     
    #3 dachuda86, Jan 26, 2009
  4. leebigez

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    Thats sounds fine and dandy, but the rox are scoring.8 points more than jeff's last year and giving up 2 more ppg in that same span. Its sounds cool and if you believe it go ahead, but the rox had less talent then and are scoring the same points. how does that add up?
     
    #4 leebigez, Jan 26, 2009
  5. tinman

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    If being the defending Western Conference Champions
    and having last year's MVP is overrated
    and the best record in the NBA

    then

    I would love to be overrated!
     
    #5 tinman, Jan 26, 2009
  6. leebigez

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    I know. Theyve beaten the best teams in the league pretty bad at least once. Theyre getting healthy and theyre one of the youngest teams in the league. They have a really big window to win ringz. Oh, and they do have the best coach probably ever.
     
    #6 leebigez, Jan 26, 2009
  7. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    How can anyone hear just oversee the fact that Adelman has been doing a fantastic job of getting everyone accumulated to the new system after one year. And also going through that transition with an injury riddled team.

    I see last night of being a small glimps of what we can become if we play team ball. If we play the way we did in the 1st quarter the entire game that woulda shown what type of team we can become.

    I really do believe that Adelman needs to instill in Yao that he doesn't have to plant himself in the paint the entire game. If he jumps out and takes a couple more of those J's that can stretch out the defense and still make room for our slashers to get to the rim without the oppositions best shot blocker hanging around with Yao.

    Adelman has done a wonderful job of adjusting to the players he's had to work with over his small stretch as coach in Houston.

    We need to appreciate the work he's done and know that they are only gonna get better the more the team stays together on the court.
     
    #7 FLASH21, Jan 26, 2009
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    I would thank Morey first. Adelman is doing a great job, but two years ago, if either yao or tmac was out of the lineup, we were pitiful. With all the depth weve acquired over the last 2 years, we can survive injuries to key players. Guys like Wafer, Landry, Scola, Brooks, ron, brent barry....they have been huge especially in the abscense of our key guys. Thank Morey for giving adelman such a deep bench to play with.
     
    #8 jVgOwnsYou, Jan 26, 2009
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    Both in this season and last season the Rockets went through a meltdown phase. Throw those games out and I bet the scoring average is significantly higher.
     
    #9 badgerfan, Jan 26, 2009
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    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Without a doubt!!! ;)

    I am always sure to give Morey his props. He has changed this whole team around to become true contenders.

    Tin has Rick The Ruler....

    I say we show love to Morey The Master!!!!!
     
    #10 FLASH21, Jan 26, 2009
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    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    MASTER! MASTER!
     
    #11 FLASH21, Jan 26, 2009
  12. EGYPT

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    as of now you are comparing apples to oranges, because the year is not over and the team has not been healthy.
     
    #12 EGYPT, Jan 26, 2009
  13. henGoOink

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    all on adelman
     
    #13 henGoOink, Jan 26, 2009
  14. Rileydog

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    I'm not arguing that Adelman > JVG. In fact, it's somewhat of a shame that JVG didn't get this roster. Our defense would be right up there with Boston if you give him Battier, Artest and co.

    I'm not sure what you're saying. I think Adelman has done very well under the injuries. My point is that the old system of relying on 1 and 11 didn't work, and I think we need more of a team concept.

    JVG would have had us #1 on defense and ran the 1 and 11 offense, with Battier, Artest, Barry and Wafer bombing away from 3. I'm not sure whether that would have worked, and question whether continued absolute reliance on 1 and 11 is the right path.
     
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  15. tinman

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    it's still too early to judge. I want to our roster for the playoffs and see if we have healthy players. then you can compare the two.

    plus it depends on the matchup. Are we going to get the Jazz again?
     
    #15 tinman, Jan 26, 2009
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    but who else would/could you rely on besides 1 and 11?! exactly. When that's all you have, in terms of scoring threats, you are severly limited. It's a miracle the rockets did as well as they did with only 1 and 11.
     
    #16 DonkeyMagic, Jan 26, 2009
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    If it weren't for Adleman, Morey's additions would be worthless. JVG would never have played Landry and Brooks to develop their game. The rookies would have rotted on the bench, just like VSpan.
     
    #17 GMAC, Jan 26, 2009
  18. durvasa

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    Excellent thread as usual, Rileydog.
     
    #18 durvasa, Jan 26, 2009
  19. icewill36

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    honestly, i think i'd rather have JVG but with our current talent level than adelman... i still think our personnel best fits JVG offense, but mainly our defense is now suffering badly. there is no way this would be tolerated under JVG. with the talent we have, defense is definitely the most important thing because i think we can find a way to score enough as long as our defense is good.
     
    #19 icewill36, Jan 26, 2009
  20. leebigez

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    You give jeff artest and this team would be in the finals no doubt. When rafer is ur 3rd best offensive player, then who else should the offense center around.
     
    #20 leebigez, Jan 26, 2009
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