Hypothetically, It looks like we might have a good old fashioned coaching/player brew-ah-ha Our first contest is Tracy - I need the ball all the time to succeed - McGrady vs. Rick - It is a team game, everyone should be involved - Adelman. The lines have been drawn, one guy will not play hard because he hates the style and will stand around on the court letting people go by him at will, hand the ball to his opponents, and whine about his team's lack of effort. Never mind that they are only following his lead. The other guy simply runs the slacker out there, no matter how badly he plays, or how often he quits, hoping beyond hope that he will buy in, meanwhile the rest of the team suffers because they can see what is going on, and are powerless to do anything about it. What must be done, the organization has to act. Do you side with Tracy who can be an amazing talent when motivated, or side with management and the new coach? What would you do? DD
Here we go... I think you are taking this a bit far. But obviously TMac needs to actually move without the ball and buy into the team (not the TMac) concept
Hypothetical situation only. But this is what it looks like to me.......that Tmac is sulking about his diminished role, this is the 2nd time he has complained about a lack of shots.... But, hypothetically, if this is what is going on, who would you want to see stay? Also, MJ ran a coach out of town, as did Magic Johnson......and to me, this is not as big of a blow out as you might think....I might fire Adelman...... DD
I let Adelman go in a New York minute. We don't have the players to run his Princeton offense. With Yao and his 80-year old body, we need to win in the next two years. Make Tmac happy if that's what he wants. A happy Tmac will make everyone better. Yes, I still believe in Tmac. Make it a poll, OP and we will see how popular these two guys are.
If this situation materializes where it is either McGrady or Adelman I hope Les gives Tracy a plane ticket out of town but I'm not sure he would. I'm more and more convinced that Adelman has lost his will to prepare and motivate a team night in and night out but I would take my chances with him over a habitual quitter, crybaby, loser like McGrady. Tracy could magically become Orlando Tmac tomorrow and he still can't take this team to the Finals because he never has and never will have the mentality to gut it out. It takes more than talent to win it all and talent is all McGrady ever had.
So because Tmac said he wanted the ball more, you're trying to say he is going against RA's offense? If you are, that's kind of stupid.
I would have to say Adelman at this point if we can actually get something of value for TMac. The combination of TMac's 100% lack of effort tonight in a game we NEEDED to win and his quotes afterwards about touches when he complained for years about wanting firepower has pretty much ended my liking him as a player. I think Adelman's modified system can work, but Tmac won't move without the ball and now plays zero defense
Is that what is causing our star player to stand at midcourt and watch his team struggle on offense? This is just for fun....see who everyone would side with IF...that is what is going on. DD
I am still trying to figure out what is RA's offense. Give Tmac the freaking rock. It's not like we have a better option.
you have had many good post but this one thread is dumb. When if at any point did McGrady say he doesn't like this type of offense??? Now your just making up stuff and making things more bigger than they are. Yeah we lost today a huge disappointing lost but it happens.
It is a "What if" type of thread.......but Tmac has been complaining about this offense for more than a year......so..... DD
It involves recognizing the defense and moving off of picks/screens in order to get open shots. It isn't 5 guys standing on the perimeter and it DOES NOT work if one of your star players refuses to move unless he has the ball in his hands
I don't like either guy right now. If I had more respect for Adelman as a coach, I'd definitely say the Rockets should get rid of Tracy since it's apparent they can't win a title with him as the primary player. But Adelman's play calling and substitutions are so stupid I can't support him.
Well hypothetically if TMac doesn't fit Adelman's system get rid of Adelman's system... do whatever that takes hypothetically if what you post were true then I would side with TMac because he's right. The best system for him and Yao is a 1/2 court inside out system. The motion offense does not fit the personnel because they are terrible passers. TMac is the best distributor on the team. If TMac is healthy, then you fit the system to his skills. I hope what you are saying is not true, I hope TMac is actually hurt or mentally off balance, but if TMac is healthy and he doesn't like the ball taken from him, then fire Adelman. No way I would keep a coach who doesn't listen to TMac if he's capable of playing healthy, he is too good a player when healthy. If JVG could get his attention then so can Adelman. Or Adelman should just bench him get him healthy and try to deal him around the trade deadline.
A very valid point my good man, but who would you choose to side with if it came down to that? A good case can be made for either. DD
i dun think his taking it to far, i think this is totally true. more and more we see him been lazy and lack of energy. just look at the way he played in 06-07 for van gundy, he wants to be the focal point of the offense.
With TMac's lack of effort on the court Rox is playing 4 to 5 and bound to lose, so why not just experiment with benching him for some games to see what will happen? I remembered vaguely that in previous few games without TMac the ball movement was much better.
During the 22-game win streak, nobody complained about Tmac hogging the ball too much. Bring Rudy back and let's run the iso for Tmac and Artest. Losing to crappy teams like Raptors/Wizards gotta stop.
i voted for adelman to leave 1) not enough players to run his system 2) Tmac gets nothign abck in a trade, he can't play any worse. 3) new coaches, players play harder. please get rid of adelman. our team needs a tough coach tat demands wat is wanted from players. tmac still has it his just out of the area code
True, you have to play to the players strengths in the NBA or you must have their buy in to any change. Need to re-define this team on both ends of the court.
