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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Mulder, Jun 18, 2003.

  1. Mulder

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    From Dark Horizons

    Aliens vs. Predator:
    Last July, 20th Century Fox announced that Paul W.S. Anderson (writer/director of the ¡°Resident Evil¡± film adaptation) had been chosen to spearhead a cinematic match-up between two cult characters in film history with ¡°Alien vs. Predator.¡± It¡¯s a battle long-savored by moviegoers and likely to be a tentpole release for the studio.

    But, since then, all has been quiet with the project¡ª until now. The film, which follows up on the 1999 videogame featuring the same titular clash and the Dark Horse comic book series, has begun moving into high gear, with sources telling FilmJerk.com that principal photography is now scheduled to begin late October in Prague. These sources follow a scooper giving similar details today at Cinescape. But FilmJerk is the only source to get details on the lead characters as well¡ª or as these characters might be better known, potential cannon fodder.

    Of course, some have decried Anderson¡¯s selection for the project, based on the work he did on ¡°Resident Evil.¡± There are also those who view this as a thinly-veiled attempt to prop up two franchises that dropped significantly at the box office with subsequent entries (particularly ¡°Alien¡±). Whatever the case may be, this looks to be a smart move by the studio to reinvigorate the two brands in a combined attempt (the last installment of ¡°The Predator¡± came out in 1990 and ¡°Alien¡± last graced screens in 1997) and coax each franchise back to the forefront.

    This new film will not involve any of the human characters from the films¡¯ previous efforts, instead using entirely new individuals. As reported by several news sources, the story looks to involve human scientists going on an expedition to Antarctica to lure Predator hunters, using Alien eggs as bait. Of course, these plans quickly goes awry and the humans find themselves in the crossfire between two warring alien species.

    Among the characters are:

    Alexia ¡°Lex¡± Homer: In her late 20s, Lex is stunning, buff, courageous, and intelligent, as well as the heroine of this film. She is an environmental researcher hired by Weyland Industries to keep everyone on the expedition ¡°alive,¡± as the head of the company puts it. A tough cookie, with a good sense of humor, she has a history of guts and glory having been the youngest to climb Mount Everest without oxygen tanks. Lex is initially second in command to Max Stafford, but when all hell breaks loose, she must assume full leadership of the remaining crew. She is not only a survivor, but a true warrior as well.

    Sebastian Wells: Wells is an American archeologist in his early 30s who is very passionate about his work. Described as ¡°unshaven and rumpled, yet also handsome and charming,¡± Sebastian joins the team and has an instant chemistry with Lex. His expertise, and fervid beliefs often has him butting heads with his boss, whom he feels has his priorities askew.

    Verheiden: A tanned, muscular European, Verheiden is an Egyptologist who is just as much ¡°at home with manual labor as with a text book.¡± He also has a romantic history with Lex, which ended rather precariously. This is evident when they are reunited on Weyland¡¯s team, and Verheiden notices that Sebastian is his likely rival. The casting agents are looking for someone who speaks with a strong accent.

    Charles Weyland: In his early 40s, Weyland is a driven billionaire industrialist with blue eyes and shock of dark black hair, giving him the air of a sportsman or movie star. This zealous, all-knowing patron of science has a secret beneath his virile bravado and cultured manner: He is dying of cancer. He is a man rapidly decaying, with his signature 9-iron golf club really serves as his cane and his cataracts disguised by blue contact lenses. Weyland has no intention of dying without first leaving a legacy for humankind. He finances the expedition, chooses its team members and insists on coming along¡ª no matter what the consequence to his health.

    Max Stafford: An ¡°elegant, handsome man of Afro-Caribbean descent,¡± he is well over 6 feet tall and speaks with a clipped, precise English accent. Max is Charles Weyland¡¯s right arm - a loyal spokesman and ex-soldier whose job is to assemble and lead the expedition team.

    Quinn: He is muscular, arrogant and brutish, a leathery skinned Texan who is in charge of the expedition¡¯s drill team. Quinn must face the aliens alone, and ends up narrowly escaping death. According to the character notes, his second confrontation with the enemy doesn¡¯t go nearly as well, it seems.

    Miller: A dedicated scientist who looks the part. He wears thick glasses, and his age is undeterminable. He's also a bit clumsy and is self-effacing and awkward around women - something Lex notices firsthand. A chemical engineer, Miller is an integral part of the expedition whose astute observations and knowledge of metallurgy help unlock the mystery behind Weyland¡¯s discovery.

    Except for the part of Lex, casting agents are looking to fill out the above castmembers those who are a citizen of the European Union, and who hold a passport to one of these countries.

    The four ¡°Alien¡± films took in more than $260 million in domestic box office combined, not counting ancillaries and DVD/VHS sales; in comparison, the two ¡°Predator¡± films brought in just over $90 million. Adjusted for current-day inflation, the ¡°Alien¡± domestic sum rises to $460 million, with the latter two films in the franchise accounting for just over a quarter of that total. Not known at this time is how it affects a rumored fifth film in the ¡°Alien¡± canon.

    The Scorecard
    Producer: John Davis
    Director/Writer: Paul Anderson
    Casting Directors: Donna Isaacson and Christian Kaplan
    Start Date: Late October, 2003
    Location: Prague

    This movie, if done right, could be incredible. If done wrong, incredibly stupid.
     
  2. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    seriously who here is interested in seeing this. its like jason v freddy. is it gonna be humans fighting the alien and the predetor or is it jus the alien v predetor. neither of them talk unless you count the predetor repeating sound effects. i cant possibly see how this would be entertaining.
     
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    The Dark Horse comics about this were pretty damn good. They took place off-world, etc.

    This is a re-written hack job, given to a hack director (RE was HOOORRRRRIIBBBLLEEE).

    Hell, they could base it off of the video game, that was fun, but no - instead they have to dumb it down as usual...

    F Hollywood...
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I read that the original script they were thinking of using was based largely off of the novel Alien vs Predator: Prey. I read that and it was sweet. It took place off world and it wasn't about humans trying to lure in Predators :rolleyes: but rather being caught in the crossfire when the Predators seeded their colony world with Alien eggs for a hunt. This idea seems like they wanted to take that one, and make it stupid.
     
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    I pity the fool who don't wanna see Mr. T. :D
     
  8. Nomar

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    Dude, this sounds awesome.

    And also, Jason vs. Freddy sounds awesome too.
     
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    I think it will be a little different than Jason vs. Freddy. Both of those characters became caricatures of themselves a looooong time ago. Aliens and Predators haven't run their franchises into the ground (or at least I don't think so...certainly you can agree that it is not as bad as Freddy or Jason). And on a side note, Predators can talk. Remember the predator repeating things that were said in the first movie? They are obviously intelligent beings, so it wouldn't surprise me if they are talking in the new movie. The only ones that don't really seem capable of talking are the aliens, and they didn't talk in the original alien movies.

    On a side side note, am I the only one that liked Aliens: Resurrection better than all the other alien movies except the second one?
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I think Alien 4 got a bad rap. It has solid action. Nice special effects and a nice twist with Ripley. I am with you. In order of movie preference I like 2,4,1,3. I really disliked 3. Didn't advance the storyline whatsoever which is what really bothered me. At least with the other 3 there were story advancements.

    Personally I would rather see another Alien move on its own with either the setting with the Aliens finally getting to earth OR probably even cooler Marines going to the Alien home planet to wipe them out completely. Either situation has great promise.

    Or how about a 3rd Predator movie where we visit the Predator's home world?

    While AvP is a great idea I think it might be the end of the Alien or Predator movies as solo entities. I think both franchises are great, great sci-fi and would hate to see them end.

    The AvP plot that was outlined doesn't sound all that great. Seems like it needs more sizzle. I think a better director needs to be involved and if you could get some cast members from either the Alien or Predator movies that might tie the moves together in a better way.
     
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    I LOVED the Alien series. I have the box set and watch it religiously. I think all 4 movies are extremely enjoyable to watch, I'd say that 3 was probably the worst with 4 being a close 2nd. The problems with 4 mainly dealt with the terrible dialogue. I also hated seeing the Captain eat it so quickly...he was one of the cooler guys on the ship in my opinion.

    This movie (A vs P) sounds horrible though. Resident Evil sucked for the most part, the only good parts in that movie were the ones that showed the horrible actors dying. That was the only real satisfaction I got out of that movie, and I am afraid that A vs P will turn into something equally as stupid.

    If it's going to be like RE, then it will be very difficult for myself to go see this movie. I'd be afraid that it would ruin the whole Alien/Predator legacy...

    Still hoping this movie's done right though...it would be truly awesome if it were...

    Ridley Scott and James Cameron need to hook up on this...
     
  13. Oski2005

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    This is terrible news. Cameron and Scott were working together on a sequel to this and were willing to do it if Fox held off on Aliens vs Predator until after their sequel. Now we won't get a good Aliens movie. On top of that, Anderson is not a good director and he isn't even going to the movie right. He isn't taking anything from the Dark Horse comics and making this take place in Antarctica. I'll wait for this one to come out on cable.
     
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    I didn't like the first one and loved the second one. Haven't seen the third and the fourth seemed just weird with the dna mixing.
     
  15. Mr.Scary

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    I didnt think Resurrection was that bad at all. I would say I liked 4 as much as #1. 2 was of course the best one and 3 just sucked.

    I am a big fan of both series and am keeping my fingers crossed for A v P. I havent set my hopes too high though because Cameron and/or Scott arent involved. I read the Dark Horse comics and think if they had stuck closely to that it would have been pretty good.
     

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