I know this doesn't deserve it's own thread but to bad, I seriously want this question answered. Why haven't we seen the line-up on court that made that insanely huge run in the 4th against the Lakers again? They had chemistry, they hustled, they had energy..THEY SCORED (without Yao!!), They caused turnovers.. I can go on and on..<b> why in the heck has JVG not played that line-up again?</b> didn't they go on somthing like a 24-1 run on the Lakers? I'm sure I'm a few #'s off but it was close to that. JVG I think your a great coach but please please please try that line-up again.. The thing I loved most about it was it went deep into our bench.. They got one shot and excelled why don't they deserve another??? I don't remember it exactly but is was somthing like Lucas/Head/Padgett/Novak/Hayes or somthing similiar, anyone know for sure? Final Statement: <B> TRY IT AGAIN!! What we are doing now isn't working, go with somthing that has worked in the past 100% of the time (since the line-up was only used once)</b> They deserve it, when the Lakers went back to their starters that line-up continued to excell not to mention the massive defense on Kobe in not letting him retake a dominate lead, that right there merits another oppurtunity.
Just because they made a run doesn't mean they can win games. But yeah i guess he could try it out again.
That lineup wasn't facing any offensive threats, thats why LA gave up 24 pts in a row to us....play those guys more and you hurt the fluidness of the starters who are the only guys who can score on this team....except for Hayes and a lot of times Battier. Our bench sucks!
Kobe isn't an offensive threat? They put him in atleast in the final 6 minutes and they terrorized him
I did not get to watch that game but somebody mentioned that the Fakers were playing their bench at that time, otherwise our bench wouldn't have made that run. Maybe somebody can confirm this?
Kobe and the starters came in when we brought the game back to around 12, that line-up continued to dominate so meh I swore the defense put an onslought on Kobe, he must of taken and missed 6 shots or so
I have wondered that as well. I would like to see it in sometime, when our starters are obviously losing control of the situation. Call a timeout and put the bench in, that's what we have them for
not really. the starters had been on the bench for a while, and it took a few trips down the court for them to control the game again. I would be surprised if this ever happens again, against the lakers this season.
The defense stopped Kobe atleast 6 times?? That is alot, If Padgett hit his two free throws and Head hit his one we would of had the game. That play merits another go, how can you not try it again? We all know JVG takes Yao out with 4-3 minutes to go in the 1st, then we start sucking it up. Why not try this line-up for that final 3-4 minutes and see, it can't be any worse then the 3-4 minute combo lineup we have now.
Besides Kobe who was LA's offensive threat? And if our bench can't stop Kobe what is the point of trading baskets with a terribe offensive bench such as our bench? The starters didn't deserve to come back in the game and the bench doesn't deserve the starters minutes to the detriment of the outcome of the game. Our bench IS NOT a threat just like our PF and our SF offense.
Kobe should be enough of an offensive threat by himself for a pat on the back. But Bynum played great offense that game, Rad is offense, and I hate cook more then anything but he has a deadly three shot. And the Bench could do alot better then an exhausted Rafer Alston and Shane Battier, they wear out also. JVG trys to have our bench play the same way as our starters when they shouldn't. Hayes plays inside, Juwan isnt a inside player why force it? The defence expects inside so change it up everynow in then. Put a 3 point threat PF in their and so fourth. Put V-Span in the game just to drive 2 times back to back hard, then put Rafer back in that way the defense is off a vibe. Yes V-Span is turnover prone but he is the only ONLY ONLLYYY player on this team that will force Yao to repost and repost amd repost as many times as it takes until he gets good position.. rafer and no-one else does that constantly.
The reason is JVG believes it's fools gold...a skirmish...midget ball...the helter skeltor game would be a reflection on him. Perhaps he needs to look at his core beliefs again, but there is merit in having the regular season be a time to practice a cognitive approach to the game.
It is pathetic that JVG has such little faith in rookies and young players...... The way Young players learn is to play them...and if you play them with BETTER players like Yao and Tmac they will perform even better. V-SPan should be on the court, JL3 should see some court time, Novak too.... There is no reason that when situations are dire and players are not performing, that JVG can't try some of these other players. JVG is too stubborn and too controlling.....I think he is prepared, but I think the team would be better off with Rudy T back. DD
why are you people trying to justify not using this lineup because the success they had in the lakers game came against the lakers bench rather than their starters? i don't think anybody is saying we should start vspan, lucas, and novak. but they should at least be playing. and not just in garbage time. the bench ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH/OUTPLAY STARTERS. i can't believe some of the stuff i'm hearing. "who is an offensive threat besides kobe?" um, everyone who had to score in order for the lakers to win that game, since kobe only put up 23 in that game but the lakers had a final score of 102. the lakers CAN play without kobe. unlike the rockets without tmac. everyone here is trying to say the only reason our bench played well was because it was against their bench. that implies that their bench isn't any better than ours. yet here we are, saying our bench sucks. is this some alternate reality where nothing makes sense? shouldn't the fact that our bench OUTPLAYED another team's bench indicate that they aren't a worthless group of never-should-have-beens?
JVG knows garbage begets garbage.......if he plays them and they kill us, will you blame JVG then too? Yes you all would! Its your team JVG keep pissing these backcourt drivers,,,,and PLEASE start JHo or trade him! I don't have faith in any of them and blind loyalty is a death warrant in the NBA and all other sports.
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Well, playing someone for 5 minutes and seeing how they perform will hardly lose you the game...if they perform well, they get more minutes...if not......they sit. But, you can not keep playing Rafer 40 minutes a night....he has nothing left in his tank at the end, and he isn't that good to begin with. DD
I admit that is way too much for Rafer and that he is not the best point guard and maybe not for this team......but...........I still think the other teams coach knows these other guys downfalls as our coach knows theirs and when you are fighting for placement in a hard division, you have to go with what gives you the best opportunity possible to win and the learning curve is very short. These guys can also break our team if they don't succeed consistently. It could crush their confidence and expose our team early in the season as WEAK. Therefore, in order to keep our weaknesses vulnerable JVG might as well keep it under wraps and get more out of a young core of starters and try to exhaust every thing possible to get them to develop a confident chemistry. I just don't think now is the right time to expose every one of our weaknesses before the all star break much less before the playoffs..........its ok if some of you disagree but I feel we need to develop with what we have right now and make it work......I just have to wonder what it is that JVG doesn't trust about each of these players as other coaches lick their chops. I don't think it is as much of a rookie thing as it is the signs of job security stress and that our bench players are lamer than we think for any extended periods of time. Any way back to the game ...its good so far......go Jho, nice shot.
