1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

A Case For Derek Fisher!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizardball, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. wizardball

    wizardball Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    376
    Likes Received:
    0
    Personally i think Derek Fisher is what the rockets need.

    1. The guy has played with a center....named Shaq. .....Knowing how to get the ball to a center seems to be difficult to do...SF?....my point being he will know where and when to pass the ball to Ming.

    2. The guy won't take too many shots like Troy Hudson who is a scoring PG...he is a above average shooter...takes timely shots.

    3. Played with superstars before....Kobe and Shaq...i think it is important for the PG to realize his role....he did that in L.A.

    4. Above average D.

    5. Plays well within a system.

    I don't think BArry - Hudson - Snow(Getting slow on D).....will help us more than Fish...he is the perfect complimentary player...what the Rocks need are player who will play their roles and fill the voids on the Team....its all about a system...therefore getting more star players would be silly.....

    lets start with FISH.
     
  2. jd3

    jd3 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    1
    I agree, Fish has all the attributes of a what JVG needs and the the M&M combo needs. Quick on the ball, experience in passing to the post, and we all know that "how to deal with Super Stars" is a big part of what keeps a team together on the court.

    Fish gets my vote for best choice for the rockets. Now, are there any real signs of getting him beyond speculation?
     
  3. wizardball

    wizardball Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    376
    Likes Received:
    0
    jd3....everyone on this board wants BArry? & Hudson?, Snow?

    to me that makes no sense at all.
     
  4. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

    Joined:
    May 21, 2002
    Messages:
    6,652
    Likes Received:
    0
    I dont want anything to do with Hudson. His eratic, is also a Shoot first PG exactly the Opposite to what is needed in this Situation . However i like the Idea barry and a T-mac backcourt!
     
  5. rrj_gamz

    rrj_gamz Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2002
    Messages:
    15,595
    Likes Received:
    198
    Exactly...Fish is the best fit to run this show...

    Forget Snow, Barry, etc...
     
  6. Dr. Basketball

    Joined:
    May 5, 2002
    Messages:
    344
    Likes Received:
    0
    Bring in Fisher, he is used to being in this type of system, I can't think of another player to the job then him
     
  7. rhester

    rhester Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    104
    totally agree,

    PLUS - he can knock down an open shot

    his only neg. is injuries
     
  8. ArtV

    ArtV Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    7,001
    Likes Received:
    1,710
    He knocks down the shots at a 30ish percentage with Shaq and Kobe and others to draw attention. I think the NBA is loaded with players who can do that for a fraction of the coin Fisher would want.

    His D WAS good.

    When Yao or McGrady or ? have to dish it back out, I want someone who can hit the shot.
     
  9. jd3

    jd3 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    1
    How much does he want - i'd be willing to do a 3 yr 15mil contract with him (3rd year option). does anyone have any real idea what fish wants? is it more PT, no payton here, is it just the money. i'm sure its a mixture of both. what's he making in LA?

    snow is my second option but no Hudson, to much of a moochie. ( iliked moochie, just not in this offence)
     
  10. Jebus

    Jebus Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    1,593
    Likes Received:
    25
    29% three point shooting.
    35% shooting overall.

    And I'm sure most of those were open looks.

    His D is not that good- especially if he doesn't get those flop calls.
     
  11. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    8,764
    Likes Received:
    11
    There is a long PG thread running, might want to post there.

    Fish is OK, but his play of play of late (terrible shooting season this year) does not warrent near what the Lakers were scheduled to pay him. He also will be 30 real soon and it might be reasonable to tack on 2 extra years wear and tear because of all those intense playoff games played on top of the regular season.

    He is someone you could have share the PG duties, and should be paid like that. If he play here for the 1.7 mil exemption he is a no brainer to sign. I'd be more cautious breaking into the MLE to sign him unless it is a 1 or 2 year deal with the team option and other avenues are explored. He might very well duplicate his shooting performance of last year and you don't want big long term money committed to him if he really is on a quick slide in terms of his capabilities.

    He isn't as risk free and as perfect of fit as many of you think.
     
  12. Jebus

    Jebus Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    1,593
    Likes Received:
    25
    I think he opted out to try and improve on a $3 million per season contract. on the Lakers forum it was said he was looking for 6-7 million per (don't remember the length) plus a starting job. This was probably right next to a thread saying we were going to trade Yao for Shaq, so take it with a titanic grain of salt.

    Maybe he could be had for the contract you suggest, but I think we can do better.
     
  13. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    8,764
    Likes Received:
    11
    That would be a horrible deal for us, see last post. If he wants to make 4 or 5 mil, a 1 year deal or 2 year deal with team option at the most--and this after other options have been explored.

    I am hoping he left LA more because his disspointment with what is happening there than for money. 1 year at maybe 4 mil, 2 year at maybe 6 mil, 3 year at maybe 7 mil--I wouldn't do more than that.
     
  14. rhester

    rhester Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    104
    True, he had a horrible year this past season.

    But he had been a dagger off the bench for LA
    up to last season, I heard he struggled with minor injuries
    all year.
     
  15. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    8,764
    Likes Received:
    11
    Fish and the rest of them are smoking something strong if he thinks he can make that. Maybe he said it was for the money so he didn't leave bad blood--I would not be surprised if it were other reasons.
     
  16. Jebus

    Jebus Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    1,593
    Likes Received:
    25
    I agree completely, especially with the part in italics.


    my thoughts exactly - if the Lakers forum was even right, chances of which aren't great.
     
  17. Gene the PIG

    Gene the PIG Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2000
    Messages:
    1,002
    Likes Received:
    6
    My vote is for Fisher, also.

    We just need a guy to dole it out, man. Screw %'s & Dish out those assists ... just like Taco Bell dishes out them beans.

    I wanna see some ally effin OOPS!

    Listen to the guy from Seattle. Barry is nice, but NOT a true PG
     
  18. munco

    munco Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2003
    Messages:
    3,715
    Likes Received:
    90
    Why are so people on this board so into a guy that couldn't even start as a PG on most teams in the NBA anymore? He seems to have lost a step and did not seem quick enough to handle guards like Chauncey Billups and his jump shot was very inconsistent. No thanks.
     
  19. rimbaud

    rimbaud Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 1999
    Messages:
    8,169
    Likes Received:
    676
    Too bad Fisher has only averaged more than four assists per game twice, with his highest being an average of 4.4.
     
  20. Gene the PIG

    Gene the PIG Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2000
    Messages:
    1,002
    Likes Received:
    6
    But he didn't start, right?

    Oh well, OK, fine, sign Barry ... then lets here you people moan for another three years about yet another experiment.

    Get a REAL PG for once!

    :rolleyes:

    Sign up 'ol John Lucas fer Cri-sakes.
     

Share This Page