A Canary In The Mine: An Open Plea To All CCF Rockets Fans ( Please Read )

I'm glad nobody is being overly dramatic here.

 

MB,

Step away from the keyboard.

 

I just ignore all the Yao only arguments.

Someone tell me. Was there less drama back in the Hakeem Olajuwon days? Or did it just seem like it because I didn't come here and read bad posts? I don't remember wanting to trade anybody.

 

Wow, You left me...speechless Man, you sure are verbose...

 

Macbeth is supposed to upset people. It shows life at its most brutal and cynical, in order to ask life's toughest question

 

I stand my belief that there isn't really a Steve only fan group, at least not as big as the Yao only group. Just a group of people who, sometimes a little heavy handedly, defend Steve Francis from unfair criticism, trade threads, and pointless complaint threads. You'll find that most if not all the people who are involved in these spats against "yao only fans" don't start pointless threads to b**** about Yao Ming, because we are mostly team first fans. It's easy to avoid a Yao bashing thread too because they are few and far in between. They just fall of the page, but a thread bashing Steve or Cat is usually one of many with many people who agree keeping it on the page. Also, which fans have been able to enjoy the team's winning record?

 

Maybe there really isn't a "Yao only" group of fans but a "Hate Stevie and Cuttino" contingent. It isn't just here, it seems lots of people in Houston don't like them.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with being a XXX-only fan. In fact, all those Yao-only fans may be annoying but their asinine comments often provide a great source of entertainment for me.

I encourage all posters at CCF to speak up and often. There should not be any need to call for truce. Passion is good. If someone does get out of line, I am sure Clutch will take care of these individuals.

 

Someone had a lot of time on there hands.

When you look at it. There really isnt a lot of bashing or whatever you like to call it, just a select few that start it and love seeing other people join in.
I havent been a member to long just about 3 months now, the things you said i really dont see to often.
This is just a game, and this is just a fan site where people can express there opnions. No need to make whole lot of drama, as if this was a Laker site with kobe and shaq.

 

Jag - You're passing out Caviar to 4th graders.

 

Wow, great points. I agree.

Sometimes, if we subsitute everything BB related and replace words with religious terms, we would sound a lot like all the hullabuloo before the Great Reformation, or maybe a bunch of middle-eastern fundamentalists shooting each other for a strip of sacred land.

I agree with your cause: PEACE IN CLUTCH BBS 2003!

This has got to stop. There are too many casualties from the recent suicide flame-bait-bombing.

Too many Yao-Only fans are claiming that the WMD (Weapons of Massive Dominance) are hidden in Yao somewhere, while the Steve-Only fans are claiming that the WMD were never there to begin with--and that's what this debate is all about. Exactly why did we declare war on the Lakers for a shot at the championship title in the first place? At the same time, the Rockets are trying to deal with a transition of power. During OPERATION OFFSEASON, we overthrew the long-standing dictator, Rudy T, and replaced him with the eastern conference puppet leader, Jeff Van Gundy, and we also sent in Secretary of Aggressiveness, Patrick Ewing, so he could find the putative WMD (Weapons of Massive Dominance) in Yao, but many of the fans are claiming that the WMD was all just a whirlwind of media propaganda by the NBA adminstration to distract fans from the declining NBA economy and public image. Things have not been easy. Since demonic terrorists flew into Eddie G's afro and into his head and blew up every single unit of morality and happiness, which caused the collapse of his emotions, and eventually his career, we have stayed resolute. The Rockets are shaken, but not destroyed.

United We Stand.

Rockets fans are helping each other again. Rockets players are doing things they never would have done before. Cat is passing and making his shots. Pike has returned. Yao is tying Cato's shoe-laces. This is a battle between good and evil. And good, as a fellow Texan and commander and chief often says, will prevail.

*Phil Harmonic Symphony ends*

*Silence*

*A single tear sheds*

*Fade to black*

 

Macbeth:I have never considered you a neutral poster. Yes a poster with a lot of commonsence, one that has a leveling effect, a poster that has a lot to say.
What do you have to say about the long time established Rocket Fans like myself who prefers the Big Man Style of Basketball over the Guard Oriented Game and support the Rockets move in this direction. Are you asking us not to post our opinions of players and the way Games are played?Or are you trying to reach another poster?

 

JAG,

Please do not stop posting, I find you one of the most thoughtful people on this board. The pure fact that you take the time to type out your thoughts at great length impresses me. Count me as one of the ones that reads just about every word you write on this board.

BTW, I became a Niners fan because they were the closest team to Tucson that wasn't LA and because Joe Montana ROCKED!

 

However, the Yao-Only FANdumentalists and the Steve-Only Fandumantalists are continuing to launch their attacks of guerilla warfare with Pseudo-identities and Trolling and suicide-flame-bait bombing. It's only a matter of time before they're military coup is squelched.

In the meantime, I'm here to entertain the weary and downtrodden. That's me, Tanner Searle, the Cutch City USO girl.

 

MacBeth: Many of us understand your consternation. However, the board has a track record of uncivility stretching back to the dawn of the board's existence. I for one try to find a little humor in all the grumping, although my humor is offbeat and generally obtuse.

Like most of the board, I love the game and I love the Rockets but I am not able to discuss the x's and o's with any degree of intelligence. I enjoy the posters who can. Similarly, there are posters with superior levels of expertise in areas like CAB rules and regulations. I love to read those posts too. However, there are many -- too many -- who pretend they are knowledgeable about this or that, but they quantify their ignorance fairly quickly and emphatically.

My point is this: read the pertinent materials and posters, scan the general rhetoric for nuggets of insight, and ignore the buffoons. It's a simple methodology, but it works for me.

As for the D&D, I find the posters in that forum too rigid in their thinking to hear another side or try to understand another view. I prefer to consider all aspects of a topic. It's like observing a mountain's south face, then east, then north and then west before deciding which iis the easiest and most logical to climb.

Plod along with the tattered but still sane contingent of rational posters. The rest of us will be watching from the foxholes.

 

I agree with you about the big man style of basketball and further believe that this team will improve dramatically when Yao touches the ball in at least two out of every three trips down. I think that MacBeth is asking for people to write substantive commentary about their feelings about the style of ball we play rather than just dropping flames and insulting the intelligence of other posters.

If you have an opinion about basketball or the team, state it, but do so politely.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. There is no such thing as a "Steve Only Fan." There is no community of Takoma Park Marylanders who log on from internet cafes in hopes of following his exploits from afar.

Look, I'd probably be accused of being the one of biggest Steve defenders here. That's ridiculous, I wouldn't even go as far as to say he was my favorite player on the Rockets. I just defend our all star point guard from the relentless torrent of criticism that other Rockets fans (or so called fans) heap upon him on a daily basis.

Look, I stopped following NCAA basketball around 98, so I didn't know Steve Francis from anything when Houston traded for him. But as, the years progressed I realized 2 things

1. he's really good
2. he plays for the same basketball team I have followed religiously for the last quarter century.

Did that turn me into a Steve Francis "Fan"? Yeah, I guess it did.

You know what though? Yao fits those two qualifications as well, so I'm a Yao Ming fan too. Sweet.

Anyway, back to being in the pro-Steve camp, have a look at my posts. I didn't say that he (or cuttino) was/are perfect, I acknowledged his shortcomings and just respond to the most asinine arguments ('Steve is no better than JR Bremer or Derek Fisher', was my personal favorite/most detested one) being advanced against him. I don't thik there is anything unreasonable about chiming in now and then to stop the idiocy, because it's not like those threads were going to die on their own anyway; as a rockets fan and responsible poster, I felt somewhat duty bound to attempt to prevent the bash fests (although the habitual offenders I have recently just put on ignore).

However, what makes it worse is the absolute double standard.

Example, silentfan, I believe, is a poster who was doing a lot of guard bashing back and forth with me the game thread last night , and has often made comments that could be construed as being made by a YOF (not saying he is one, I don't think he is)

However, a few days ago he started a thread questioning Yao's purported high basketball IQ. Guess what happened? An onslaught of posters chimed in to tell him how dumb he was, etc, etc etc., without even addressing the substance. Would a thread saying the same about SF or CM get the same response? No, because they are too many of them, they have become commonplace. The sad part is silentfan wasn't jsut doing a mindless bash, that said YAO SUCKSSS TRADE HIM!! like many of the SF/CM threads/posts, but that he had legitimate arguments. But it didn't matter.

Hell, last night people were getting all ornery with me for my comments in the game thread. Look at them. Essentially, I said, I'm happy, the Rockets won, I'm glad we hit our shots, Yao can't score on the bench, Iheard Dunleavey was ddoubling Yao w/o the ball, etc etc. NOthing really ugly or critical of anybody, or singling out anybody (poster or player) for extreme praise either.

But then I got slammed by a bunch of people for not being sufficiently denunciative of the guards. (in a supreme bit ofirony, it seems like standardized denunciations have become the 'party' line around here these day...remind anybody of anything. ...alright that was bad but I couldn't resist massaging my ego with delusions of wit)

Anyway, I'm not sure how to end this missive, but just lighten up guys. I'm a Rockets fan, you're a Rockets fan, the Rockets just won, and are, in general thus far, winning, this season and I think it's great.

 

LOL....tannersearle, I dont care who or what you are, or what the others from that place say about you...you can be funny as hell. thanks for the laugh.


Mac,
Has civility dereased around here? Yes.
Is it so bad that it over-rides the value of th eboard? not imo..

be patient, and see if the new-found emphasis on civility and quality posting has any effect before declaring things out of control.

I do appreciate your concern, and am thankful that you feel enough to post about it.
Like andy, I also somehow manage to read every word you write, your labors are not totally for naught..