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9/11 and Controversy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. ItsMyFault

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    I'm not someone who really takes conspiracy theories seriously when it comes to anything... whether it be aliens or government, politics... whatever. But I find some of these 9/11 documentaries to be quite logical when it comes to appealing their viewers that we aren't fed the truth about 9/11 from the U.S. government.

    I just got done watching this one called "Loose Change 9/11" www.loosechange911.com. I found that a lot of it was really trying to hard to try and bulge into something that wasn't really there. But all it's asking us to do is to ask the government to reveal more information about 9/11... which IMO isn't too much to ask since it's our right to know about things.

    My reason though for making this thread is to ask one question. Why don't more people believe that something more than just terrorists who are part of Al Qaeda hijacked planes and then attacked the WTC and the Pentagon with them?

    I know this has probably been discussed before... I'd just like to see people's take on this. Again, not trying to brew up any conspiracy theories here... just wondering why most people don't really care enough about 9/11 to ask more questions about it.
     
  2. ToyCen428

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    If there was more coverage in the national media reguarding all the questions left unanswered then there would be more people convinced we didn't get the entire truth. For instance...

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    Thousands appear in LA to speak their Anti-War message which is 95% attacking 9/11 since they're belief is we are at war for no real reason at all.

    What type of media coverage did this event get?

    Here's an interview an ABC reporter did with the guys who made Loose Change. Watch how he tries to back them into a corner but these guys stand their ground. What's funny is I'd like to see ABC's "spin" on this interview where they choose not to show some of the responses like "why am I doing your job? Trying to ask questions to get the truth!"
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  3. Mr. Brightside

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    30-40% of Americans believe the government hasn't told us the entire truth behind 9/11 as evidenced by many national surveys and polls.

    Its just the people who believe the entire 9/11 commission report tend to call those who don't believe it loons and conspiracy theorists. Thus this sizable minority of opinion is rarely heard in common debate amongst folks.

    http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_opinion_polls


     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I don't think 1/3rd of respondants is a high number.

    Also, not getting all the information doesn't mean that they assisted. It may be kept confidential for national security purposes.

    Anything is possible I guess. But if you believe that your country would do that, then you should be doing something more than chatting about it years later. That is a SERIOUS accusation. That a government sacrificed a building full of people + more in order to invade Iraq, a country that has NOTHING to do with Al Qaeda (the attackers) and did not have WMD's.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Because there's no evidence to the contrary and it happened in front of, you know, a nearly world-wide audience.

    Loose Change, as with most conspiracy theories, is pretty much garbage.

    Really stinky garbage .
     
  6. Rashmon

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    I'm just shocked, that I have never heard this discussed before, nor seen that amazing video.

    This week.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    This has been discussed many times before. To repeat what I've said as someone who works in architecture I have found Loose Change and some of the other conspiracy theories to be lacking in basic knowledge about architecture and structural engineering while also cherry picking the information to make their argument.

    I find it very very unlikely that conspiracy to take down the buildings through planted explosives to have happened. If there was a conspiracy to me it would likely be if there were people who had specific knowledge about the attack and chose to deliberately ignore it but I haven't seen much evidence for that either.
     
  8. rimrocker

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    9/11 conspiracies will always be with us in no small part because there really was a conspiracy... a conspiracy to not thoroughly investigate the events and adequately explain our state of knowledge prior to the event and our reactions afterwards.

    The Bush Administration and the Republican Congress did not want a legitimate investigation and worked extremely hard to get the bare minimum that would give them cover. Sadly, they succeeded and the time for a real investigation is now gone.
     
  9. TopsDrop

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    in before the Bush bashing....oh wait.
     
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    with freedom and JUSTICE for all. Yea, lots of justice here. If the terrorist's planes had flown into the economic or health care bill, then trillions would have been spent to find the real culprits. Wake up folks, your government doesn't work for you and hasn't for a very long time. If it isn't obvious now, it may never be.

    Govt = psychopaths paid very well to follow more powerful psychopath's orders while keeping the public entertained and distracted.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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  13. Pull_Up_3

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    I would comment but u see the lil red bar i have instead of green keeps me from doing so

    People on this board cant see other peoples perspective and opinion on controversial topics such as this and think only what they think is right

    so a big F U to them they know who they are
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't want to get you banned but I would be interested in hearing you elaborate on this post.
     
  15. Pull_Up_3

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    I forgot what thread it was but i think you also posted your opinion on there

    i called some guy a P**** and i guess thats were the neg rep came

    But like i said in the other thread I DO believe the govt had something to do with 911. Loose change is verry old im surprised this guy is bearly finding out about it.

    No way you can ever convince me some guys with "box cutters" hi jacked a plane where they were out numbered.

    Loose change is a good video the part that i guess really convinced me was where you see the lil explosions while the tower is coming down

    And as for people not wanting to know more? beats me stupid people who had no relation to the people who died that day and for them life goes on
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Exactly what do you think the U.S. government did and why would they authorize the killing of thousands of U.S. citizens?
     
  17. Pull_Up_3

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    Why? i dont know and i wish i did, i just cant see what 911 happening without inside help.

    Have you seen loose change?
     
  18. TopsDrop

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    Keep drinking the koolaid buddy.

    We have no idea what went on in those planes that horrible day.

    People like you make me sick.
     
  19. CrazyDave

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    No kidding, right?

    Well, the hilarity ensues when the connection is made that it was done to give us an excuse to... wait for it... attack Iraq. You know, the place that people know didn't have ties to Al Qaeda?

    You'd think... if they were going to go to such extreme and terrible lengths to "set someone up" that they would have... you know... picked scapegoats that are either from or actually tied to the country they want to invade.

    Instead, a bunch of other baloney was going on. If that was their plan... not only is it a travesty and murderous injustice of biblical proportions... but it was also superfail.

    Count me in the group that figures we don't know everything, and probably never will ... but that doesn't mean I think the govt. orchestrated the attack.
     

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