7 games left, "no TANKING" but do you want them to win or loose?

hoping your team will lose is VERY sad.

 

i totally agree that houston should focus on developing the role players. some people may call this tanking but i think that if the role players end the season with confidence, then i think that next season along with a good draft would definitely improve houston overall. there is no point playing francis and mobley 40+ mins when they may get inured. let the young inexperienced guys run around and get used to playing more. we would still play teams who are headed for playoffs and still jockeying for position so still talented teams remainin to play against.
this is not hoping your team will lose rather developing your role players

 

Barbourdg,Why would you want to pick up 2 SF's in Odom and Butler?

 

How do you gain confindence getting you a$$ handed to you?

 

LOSE LOSE LOSE...let cleveland and NY win and see how far it gets them next year

 

Odom is about to undergo surgery on his wrist. Makes sense. Surgery now gives him recovery time to see if teams will still try to trade for him. But I'd want to know he's OK before we hand over valuable draft picks &/or KT. If healthy, Odom is entirely welcome here.

Unfortunately our more pressing need is at the center position. Yes, opposing 3's torch us, absolutely kill us, but we need to fill the 5-spot. If Wilcox is at least 230 lbs. (the draft sources invariably list 220 or 240) then give him a serious look. If not, trade for Kwame Brown. Maybe CD and Rudy can bring out the future All-Star in this kid.

 

With the Rapters amazing run and the Cavs recent play it looks to be quite a magical ending to a lousy and unlucky season, let's not blow it now.

Confidence and team unity are overrated, athleticsm, size and talent are underrated. Aw, what the heck, let's go for the Nugget's pick! With a good effort tonight, at home versus Memphis and especially at the Nugs, it might just be possible. After all, who would have thought the Raptors could be two wins away from essential securing a playoff spot 2-3 weeks ago?

Personally, I trully don't believe we are tanking, we just aren't very good, have played no defense all year, and have no veteran leadership right now. I just hope we wait to start clicking next year. I feel greedy , lets go get the 4th spot going into the lottery!

 

I'd like them to end up with 30 wins. That means 3-3 over the final six.

 

Is there some sort of prize for 30 wins that i'm unaware of?? What the hell is the difference if we winn 30 or 29 or 31???? Thats the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard.

 

That's a naive and uninformed exaggeration.

I'll never understand how fans of a team that has grabbed possibly the best player in 2 of the past 3 drafts despite winning over 50 percent of their games in that span continue to think this way. Boggles the mind.

 

My reasoning is simple. The 1983-84 club went 29-53.

Excluding the ridiculously poor (ie: genuinely tanking or expansion) seasons, I'd like that record for badness to stand.

 

Just for curiousity's sake, what do you need Butler for if you trade for Odom? Don't you then have a lineup of Marcus, Griffin, Odom, Mobley and Francis? Butler doesn't fit anywhere. I think in your scenario, if we trade for Odom and a pick, we take Borchart rather than Marcus, or we take them both, or we trade one of the picks again. I think Butler goes elsewhere because he and Odom play the same position.

 

The Lottery eliminates any reason to root for losing.

 

Well hell, since it worked in 1984, it must work every year.

How many teams since Houston in '84 (the lottery started the following year) picked a player with the #1 pick that eventually led them to a championship? Okay, I'll move it out to the top 3 picks so you can include Jordan. Okay, I'll move it out to the top 10 picks. You're left with Chicago and San Antonio. Two teams in the last 17 years. But what about the Pippens and Grants that were picked in that range, some will say. The answer is those guys are irrelevant unless you have a Jordan. Therefore the focus should be to find a player on our current team and make him a Jordan (ie give Francis plenty of minutes and try to win games); or rely on luck, which, again, 2 in 17 years -- and that's assuming a) we pick at the top, and b) there's a player of that caliber in the draft THIS year. You have to compute your chances to win the lottery, AND weigh that against the probability of a Jordan, Shaq, or Hakeem being available RIGHT NOW. I'm no mathematician, but I'd say the chances of that are ridiculously low.

By playing all out to win games, you presumably have seen Francis improve, AND kept your dignity, AND fostered a winning environment/attitude. You then most likely make a move in the off-season to improve your personnel (an example would be the Francis and Griffin acquisitions, or the Taylor free agent signing). By tanking (perhaps by unnecessarily resting Francis, Mobley, etc, and wasting chances for them to improve their games), you most likely, best case scenario, add another future role player to a team that will probably never achieve greatness (or make the same or a similar deal that you would have made before). Bottom line is, If I'm not going to win a championship, I'd rather do it by not tanking.

 

71% thinking with their brains
29% thinking with their hearts

Good thing me and most of us don't have a heart