4th Quarter Collapses are nothing new...

Coaching? where? by who? The guy gave the dumb stare when all the guards on the court were in a state of confusion and made no substitution? The guy just let the things get out of control and not call a timeout? Is that the guy you are reffering to as the coach?

 

Lack of execution. If you can't make the entry pass, run the pick and roll. If you can't run that, you better be able to create your own shot.

Oh wait, the fans will yell, "You have to get Yao the ball." Easier said than done whent he defense is hellbent on not allowing you to do just that. They give you everything else, just not the ball in Yao's hands.

Simply put, we only had one player on the court that was worth much of a flip last night. He was negated by the D. You really don't have much left after that.

 

I said it last year and the same holds true for this year, I did not like how JVG and Rick Adelman both are overplaying their starters in the 2nd half.

Popovich still gets his subs in there and gets his starters some rest to keep them fresh.

JVG did not do this, and now Rick Adelman is following suit....very frustrating.

DD

 

Notable wins this years where we gave up 25+ points in the fourth:

29pts Thu 01 @ Utah | Won by 11
31pts Tue 30 @ LA Lakers | Won by 2
25pts Tue 06 vs San Antonio | Won by 8
29pts Fri 07 @ New Jersey | Won by 7
26pts Sat 22 @ Chicago | Won by 18
26pts Fri 11 vs Minnesota | Won by 31


Conclusion there is any relation between allowing 25+ point and losing the game.

18-4 I think when wining after the 3rd Quarter (77% of wining)

Houston just go and get the lead after 3 quarter and you will have the best chance of win the game.

 

Indeed, Rick Adelman has problem managing minutes for his players.

 

Yes, one has to ask why all the historical 4th Qtr collapses. The only logical answer anyone can reasonably come up with is that either a) the other team turns it up a notch and we can't keep up due to our lack of talent or we are tired. Or b) We are plain worn out by the 4th and cannot play at a high level.

Looking at our team, I'd say we have plenty of talent so therefore it must be b) We are tired and cannot play at a high level in the 4th qtr.

 

It was Yao (75%), and Rafer+Tmac's being unable to make jumpers (25%)


On defense: Yao's fatigue, bad clutch rebounding, bad officiating.
On offense: pound-it-to-Yao is a huge mistake, plus Alston's ZERO offensive abilities.

Someone got to check Yao's stats in these collapses.
Yao was as unclutch as now back to JVG era.

 

I don't think JVG overplayed starters last year. Very rarely did you see anyone other than Rafer play over 40 minutes a game. He did a great job at playing Yao in spurts and giving Tracy long rests in both halves. If we had a legit backup pg, then Rafer could have gotten more rest, but Rafer seems to play better the more minutes he plays, so I don't know wha good that would have done.

 

Giva me a break! The collapes started BEFORE Yao got back on court yesterday. When Rafer could not even get ball to the front court, I knew the Rockets were doomed...

 

its because we are CURSED franchise full of players who are CHOKE ARTISTS.

 

What's the record when the Rockets go into the fourth quarter trailing?

 

The Rockets had their biggest lead in the third when Yao was on the floor killing everybody. When he got his fourth foul and had to sit everything went to Hell. Then he plays the fourth quarter, can't get a pass to save his life and ends up taking three shots in the final two minutes after going cold and wasting a ton of energy earlier in the quarter banging with whoever the Phillies had on him.

It's real simple. The magic number for the Rockets is 15. When Yao takes over 15 shots a game they have a winning record. When he has fewer they have problems. How many did Yao get last night? Here's another Yao stat: 3 shot attempts in the fourth, all after the two minute mark.

 

At one point, it was something like 1-10 but I don't know now.

 

... they are merely an undeniable part of the proud history of the Houston Rockets. anyone who has watched the Rockets for many years is well aware of us not getting the job done. 2 game 7 losses? no playoff series wins in over 10 years?

 

Rafer is a scrub. He has the "right" to suck.

Yao, in the other hand, has to shoulder the load as the only all star on court, if he let the collapse continue he should be criticized. no?

Yao is the anchor of this team.

10 minutes, 0/3, 3 points,1 rebound, 1 TO, 1 PF from Yao in the 4th.

no, Rockets wont win this way.

 

I honestly felt with the addition of Francis/James and a rejuvenated Bonzi plus the newer additions we would make it to the 1st round of the playoffs and probably the 2nd round if we all gelled as a team and played hard every night.
I never thought that we could go beyond that. I admit I overestimated the talent level. We are a lottery ball club plain and simple.Morey did the best he could do with our limited abilities to improve,but I don't think we will be able to get better in the draft and some other team will reap the benefits of our mistakes.
I'm not criticizing the the selection of Brooks or Landry who are draft choices with some genuine promise and are the only plus points along with Scola for the future but I don't think management will succeed in turning things around in the off season.
We are stuck.

 

I don't know how meaningful this is. If the Rockets give up, on average 96 points/game this year (91 last year), and the 4th quarter is the highest scoring quarter, especially in close games (being stretched out by free throws), it's likely that they'd give up more than 25 points in the 4th in a lot (if not most) of their games. A more meaningful study, albeit more difficult, would be to see the number of games they led by 10 points or more at any time during the second half, but lost. (Or led by 6 points or more at any time during the fourth quarter).

 

That's an easily doable study, using the data available at basketballvalue.com. I'll look into it some time this week. I think it will be interesting.