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401K Questions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by BigSherv, Apr 10, 2007.

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  1. BigSherv

    BigSherv Member

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    How do you guys have your 401K's broken down.

    I looked at mine today and this is my breakdown
    78% Stock
    15.7 Money market/Stable Value
    5.8% Bonds
    0.5% other

    I am only 27 so I know I should be a little "riskier" with my savings but I was curious if having that large percentage in stock is the right move. They are not any individual stocks but various funds.

    I have always had a positive return on my investments int he double digits.

    I know people say to never look at your 401K now and just let it grow but I kind of just want to set it one time and not have to worry to much.
     
  2. macalu

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    risker? dude, you've got almost 80% in stock. any riskier you'd have a heart attack every day. well, at least i would.
     
  3. Master Baiter

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    Seems like an awful lot in cash.
     
  4. BigSherv

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    How do most people have theirs set up?

     
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    The way I did it is I went through and used the funds that Forbes and i think it is called morningstar rated as good quality funds to be a solid backbone to your retirement account. I just feel I have too much backbone now.
     
  6. Rockets Red Glare

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    At your age, most people have it in 100% stocks. For money you will not need for 30 to 40 years you do not need to be saving cash at this point.
     
  7. Master Baiter

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    Also it is difficult to know how to really give advice because just saying you have X% of stocks in your portfolio doesn't give the entire picture. How you diversify the stocks/funds/whatever is the key. Growth? Value? Large cap? Small cap? International?
     
  8. macalu

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    true. i didn't think of that.
     
  9. BigSherv

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    Let me find my breaakdown


     
  10. BigSherv

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    This is what I currently invest in

    Investment
    AMERICAN GROWTH FD OF AMERICA
    ARTISAN INTERNATIONAL FUND
    BLUE CHIP GROWTH FUND
    EQUITY INDEX 500 FUND
    FIDELITY LOW PRICED STOCK FUND
    FINANCIAL SERVICES FUND
    HEALTH SCIENCES FUND
    INTERNATIONAL DISCOVERY FUND
    JANUS FUND
    MID-CAP GROWTH FUND
    MID-CAP VALUE FUND
    NEW HORIZONS FUND
    PERSONAL STRATEGY GROWTH FUND
    PIMCO TOTAL RETURN ADMIN
    SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY FUND
    SMALL-CAP STOCK FUND
    SMALL-CAP VALUE FUND
    TRP STABLE VALUE FUND SCH E
    U.S. TREASURY MONEY FUND
     
  11. Master Baiter

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    I'm not even about to look them all up but it sounds like you have a nice mix of funds. If it is working for you then great.

    Personally, I wouldn't keep 15% of my retirement in cash. I'm 29 so we are about in the same boat. I'd probably keep about 5% cash, 5% in bonds, the rest in what you have now. You have decades before you are going to use/need the money so let it grow. You will ride out the bumps in the market.

    What I'd recommend even more is how you save for retirement. Here's what I'd do:

    Contribute into my 401k as much as my employer will match. After that, max out a traditional IRA for immediate tax savings and the ability to invest in whatever you want. I do not like the idea of having only a handful of investment options. Then if you qualify, max out a Roth IRA for deferred tax savings. If you still have money to save, max out your 401k. If you still want to save even more money for retirement, open up a brokerage account and just stash money in quality funds and/or stocks/bonds.

    Just know, I'm not in any way, shape, or form a financial advisor. I just read anything I can get my hands on. I'd love to be more financially savvy.
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    I picked the 3 funds my company offered with the lowest cost ratio.

    40% S&P 500 Index
    30% Vanguard Primecap
    20% Vanguard Windsor Fund
    10% Money Market

    My company matches 6%, but I contribute 10%.

    I'm in my mid-thirties. Should I move some of my fixed money into one of the variable funds?
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    thats about right.

    as long as you have solid stocks/mutual funds it shouldnt be a big problem. short term flucutations dont really mean much in the long run.

    but like others have said, there seems to be a bit much in cash.
     
  14. No Worries

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    There is no right answer. 90% stocks in your mid 30s is aggressive though. Increasing the stock exposure will likely increase your risk but not your return.
     
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    19 funds is too many funds for my taste. I would cut that in half if I were you.
     
  16. BigSherv

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    What is a poor, average, good return percentage on your 401k?
     
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    I would compare the 401k total return against a balance fund like Vanguard Wellington Fund or Dodge & Cox Balanced Fund. A more sophisticated comparison could be made against Target Date retirement funds like Vanguard Target Retirement 20xx or Fidelity Freedom 20xx, especially if you are managing toward your retirement date.
     
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    Mine has been doing 15% growth annualized for the last 3 1/2 years I've been with the company.

    I'm 100% stocks right now:
    - 20% large cap
    - Hotchkis and Wiley Large Cap Value
    - 20% mid cap
    - Artisan Mid Cap Value
    - 20% small cap
    - Artisan Small Cap Value
    - 40% international
    - Dodge & Cox International Stock
    - Neuberger Berman International Inst

    But I just rebalanced last week, dumped a couple funds and picked up a couple others, so the numbers are a bit off in the pure sense.
     
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    1. How do you max out both a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA?

    2. Roth IRA distributions, assuming you meet the guidelines, will be tax-free not tax deferred.
     
  20. Master Baiter

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    The contribution limit for a traditional and Roth IRA for 2007 is $4000.

    http://www.fool.com/money/allaboutiras/allaboutiras01.htm

    You put $4000 in each, they are maxed out.

    You are correct about the Roth IRA. Withdrawals are tax free. I've been reading a lot about annuities and those are tax deferred.
     

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