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4 Nations Tournament in China

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yao_ming1, Jul 17, 2004.

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  1. Yao_ming1

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    Yes, I'm sure he'll do the same in the NBA this season. Can't wait. I expect at least 35 pts, 18 rebs per game from him.
     
  3. omair

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    If Yao can average 35 points, and 18 boards per game....consider the NBA Championship back in Houston. ;)
     
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    :eek:

    That would be Wilt's number today. A surefire MVP.

    :D :D
     
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    Be realistic people? 35 AN 18 A GAME?. not even hakeem my FAVE player of all time was'nt that dominant in his Prime. or shaq?. you could argue wilt was, but the players back then werent upto todays standards. lets be realistic, best we can hope for out of yao is 27 an 12 player throught his Career.
     
  7. m_cable

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    35 pts and 18 rebs. :rolleyes:

    Anything less than 50.4 ppg and 25.7 rpg would be a total embarassment. :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    I'm sure the competetion is just fantastic over there(kidding) Dunking and pointing in Korean's face is one thing but trying to consistently outmuscle and dominate the nba competition is a whole 'nother. We know what Yao can do in spurts. What we need is consistent domination. Hopefully he'll do that this year.
     
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    Anybody else rooting for China to go further in the Olympic Tourney than all the nations including America just so we can see Yao play? Or is everyone rooting for an early elimination so he does not risk injury
     
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    Forgot your sarcasm tags I see.
     
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    Can we try out Zhu Gangyu out right without going through draft? He shoots higher than 60% outside of the arc.
     
  12. smoothie

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    hmmmm 28 and 7 in 22 MPG.....

    thats comparable to 14-4 against nba competition in 22 MPG. so in 36mpg he should get 23pts 7rbs.

    he should get more rebounds.
     
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    I wish he was a better rebounder though, I'm hoping 20 and 10 next season
     
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    Yao just had a toe surgeory, thus his rebounds were down which was understandable. Plus he did all this in 22 min.

    -G'day-
     
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    We all are. :)

    His third year has GOT to be the year he gets over the 20/10 barrier.
     
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    Everyone complains about Yao's rebounding but what you guys don't realize is that Yao is a damn good rebounder per minute. Not one of the best, but consider the fact that Kevin Garnett plays 7 more minutes than Yao. In those 7 minutes, even if he is exhausted and barely run, he'll be able to grab ONE rebound, putting him at 10. Even in 5 minutes he should be able to grab one more. In fact, if you calculate the rate at which he grabs them, it's 9 in 33 minutes, which is one every 3.6 minutes. So assuming we add .4 minutes (which is over 10% btw) to make up for tiredness and reboudns being more difficult at the end of games, we'er talking 10 rebounds in 37 minutes.

    He's currently 15th best rebounder in the league, with 13 of those 14 players playing at least 3 more minutes than him. That one excluded player is Marcus Camby, 10 rebounds in 30 minutes.

    Yao Ming is a better rebounder than:

    P.J. Brown
    Antonio Davis
    Antoine Walker
    Shareef Abdur Rahim
    Greg Ostertag
    Theo ratliff (BY FAR)
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Kurt Thomas

    All these players play between 31 and 34 minutes, except for Ostertag who plays 27 minutes, however, he only grabs 7.4 rebounds.

    In per minute stats, he's in the same territory as Donyell Marshall, Zach Randolph, and Etan Thomas. Basically, around 13rpg in 48 minutes.

    To assume he'll get 10 rebounds per game next season, consider the fact that he'll definitely play more than 32.8 minutes. He needs 3.5 minutes to grab a rebound. Can he play around 36 minutes? Probably not. However, he'll probably play around 34-35 minutes. Can he make up the .5 rebounds per game through better conditioning, getting more accustomed, and applying everything he learned from day 1? That's what we're hoping for right now.

    Personally, I think he'll tease us with a 19.8ppg/9.8rpg season, and for yet another year we'll wonder if he'll ever be 20/10.
     
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    thanks for posting that sane...

    yao is not an elite rebounder in the league but he is still a solid rebounder. people are always going to get on him for being 7'6 and not pulling down 15 boards a game.
     
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    So he needs to handle more minutes then. The fact of the matter is that his rebounding numbers aren't great and he needs that to get to the next level. One more offensive rebound would probably give him 1.5 more points a game since he would get one more touch so close to the basket.
     
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    Agreed with Sane and robbie.

    People hold Yao's heighth against him. He's a more than adequate rebounder. You'd just want him to be a complete beast. Still, it's silly to say he's not a useful rebounder.
     
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    once china has this guy as their pg things should be much better:
    NBA Comparisons:

    Chen Jianghua:

    Optimistic Outlook: Jason Williams (more athletic)
    Pessimistic Outlook: Rafer Alston (before Miami Heat)

    Positives: Had his coming out party at the 2004 Adidas Superstar Asia camp. Unbelievable athlete. He can run the 100m dash in 10.6 seconds and has a 40 inch vertical! Won the slam dunk competition and was runner up in the 3pt competition. Amazing quickness, handles the ball extremely well. Also extremely flashy, which could be a bad thing, but is probably good for his creativity as a PG. Excellent court vision and awareness, the first of his kind from China.

    Negatives: His defense is horrible. Extremely skinny, gets man handled by guards who give him a little body. Needs to spend hours in the weightroom, but needs to do it under supervision as to not lose his quickness. Sometimes his game is too flashy because it sacrifices skill. His play can get out of control and end up hurting his team. Chen really needs to be tutored by a great coach. His age is in question, but 88 seems pretty probable.


    Bottom Line: Chen Jianghua is a player with unlimited potential. At 16 and just 6'1 he could be at least 6'3 by the time he's ready for the NBA. Hopefully he opens the floodgates of guards coming over from Asia. He has the potential to be the first non-big Chinese man to make a real impact. He's that guy all the Chinese ballers in America want to be.

    - Simeon Kwan
     

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