30,000 Show up in Atlanta for Government Housing Applications

glynch · Aug 25, 2010

DaDakota said:

Can we send all those poor folks who want free housing to Haiti to help build their country? Let them work for a living and help people that are more in need.

DD
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Dakota, I like your abiity to think out of the box-- including with the Rockets, generally.

I would say: have some of them babysit for the others kids; have others build houses and or public housing for them all. Not dissing the Haitians, but we have people here in bad shape, too.

FDR saved capitalism for the Wall Street Elite and Fox News viewers alike by the Work Progress Administration. It doesn't fit into the libertarian/conservative trickle down thing. It just works.

DaDakota · Aug 25, 2010

glynch said:

FDR saved capitalism for the Wall Street Elite and Fox News viewers alike by the Work Progress Administration. It doesn't fit into the libertarian/conservative trickle down thing. It just works.
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I do believe a new "New Deal" is in order.

DD

glynch · Aug 26, 2010

JCDenton said:

glynch said:

You didn't answer the question.

Why should $0 income provide roughly the same standard of living as $40000 income?
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You have a minor abstract point yet you don't get it.

In America like most advanced countries we don't like to see any of our fellow citizens suffer needlessly and $40k is about what is needed to avoid needless misery and to grow healthy children in a family so they can grow up to support even cold hearted conservatives like you in your old age--You know provide police services and medical services etc for your old age that can't be provided for you in a vacuum even if you count your pennies and have a substantial 401(k) which all conservatives always assume.

I suppose you think that raising children per se is not a valuable service to society that deserves support.
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JCDenton · Aug 26, 2010

glynch said:

JCDenton said:

You have a minor abstract point yet you don't get it.

In America like most advanced countries we don't like to see any of our fellow citizens suffer needlessly and $40k is about what is needed to avoid needless misery and to grow healthy children in a family so they can grow up to support even cold hearted conservatives like you in your old age--You know provide police services and medical services etc for your old age that can't be provided for you in a vacuum even if you count your pennies and have a substantial 401(k) which all conservatives always assume.

I suppose you think that raising children per se is not a valuable service to society that deserves support.
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This is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying a lot. I'd love to know how you concluded that a minimum income of $40000 per family is necessary to provide police services. Police services are funded by taxes, which I pay a substantial amount of and a family earning $0 and subsidized for $40000 pays none of. Funds are redistributed from me to provide police services to them, not the other way around.

You still haven't provided any justification for the $0 earner having the same standard of living as the $40000 earner, other than "waaaaah, think of the CHILDREN." If $40000 is the minimum income needed to avoid "needless misery," doesn't the person who actually earned that much (as opposed to leeching it off others) deserve better? You support perverse economic incentives by making it rational for people to stay home and do nothing unless they can get a job paying substantially more than $40000 per year.
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glynch · Aug 26, 2010

JCDenton said:

glynch said:

This is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying a lot. I'd love to know how you concluded that a minimum income of $40000 per family is necessary to provide police services. Police services are funded by taxes,
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JC,JC,JC health care and police services are provided by live human beings not mere money. If the society hasn't raised enough healthy well adjusted folks to do these jobs your 401K) won't automatically provide it.

You still haven't provided any justification for the $0 earner having the same standard of living as the $40000 earner, other than "waaaaah, think of the CHILDREN."
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I know you probably take pride in being a coldly logical guy, but the children grow up to clean your butt in your old age.

If $40000 is the minimum income needed to avoid "needless misery," doesn't the person who actually earned that much (as opposed to leeching it off others) deserve better?
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Again, I know children blah, blah, blah, sorry to trouble you with them, but you have to look at society as a whole even if you don't care about your own butt in your old age.

You support perverse economic incentives by making it rational for people to stay home and do nothing unless they can get a job paying substantially more than $40000 per year.
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JC mothers at home raising kids are not doing "nothing". i would refer you to feminsm in general and works talkng about human captial for society. I think you can actually make a very solid economic argument that they are doing more than folks earning wages in many industries such as the cigarette industry, the padde bra industry etc. though it does provide eye candy.

Thanks again for showing the shallow allegedly hard headed "logic" of the econ 101 limited supplemented with Fox News or possibly Ron Paul.
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Commodore · Aug 26, 2010

A sorry sight, absolutely disgraceful what the entitlement state has wrought.

glynch · Aug 27, 2010

JCDenton said:

glynch said:

This is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying a lot. I'd love to know how you concluded that a minimum income of $40000 per family is necessary to provide police services. Police services are funded by taxes,
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JC,JC,JC health care and police services are provided by live human beings not mere money. If the society hasn't raised enough healthy well adjusted folks to do these jobs your 401K) won't automatically provide it.

You still haven't provided any justification for the $0 earner having the same standard of living as the $40000 earner, other than "waaaaah, think of the CHILDREN."
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I know you probably take pride in being a coldly logical guy, but the children grow up to clean your butt in your old age.

If $40000 is the minimum income needed to avoid "needless misery," doesn't the person who actually earned that much (as opposed to leeching it off others) deserve better?
Click to expand...

Again, I know children blah, blah, blah, sorry to trouble you with them, but you have to look at society as a whole even if you don't care about your own butt in your old age.

You support perverse economic incentives by making it rational for people to stay home and do nothing unless they can get a job paying substantially more than $40000 per year.
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JC mothers at home raising kids are not doing "nothing". i would refer you to feminsm in general and works talkng about human captial for society. I think you can actually make a very solid economic argument that they are doing more than folks earning wages in many industries such as the cigarette industry, the padde bra industry etc. though it does provide eye candy.

Thanks again for showing the shallow allegedly hard headed "logic" of the econ 101 limited supplemented with Fox News or possibly Ron Paul.
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glynch · Aug 27, 2010

JCDenton said:

glynch said:

This is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying a lot. I'd love to know how you concluded that a minimum income of $40000 per family is necessary to provide police services. Police services are funded by taxes,
Click to expand...

JC,JC,JC health care and police services are provided by live human beings not mere money. If the society hasn't raised enough healthy well adjusted folks to do these jobs your 401K) won't automatically provide it.

You still haven't provided any justification for the $0 earner having the same standard of living as the $40000 earner, other than "waaaaah, think of the CHILDREN."
Click to expand...

I know you probably take pride in being a coldly logical guy, but the children grow up to clean your butt in your old age.

If $40000 is the minimum income needed to avoid "needless misery," doesn't the person who actually earned that much (as opposed to leeching it off others) deserve better?
Click to expand...

Again, I know children blah, blah, blah, sorry to trouble you with them, but you have to look at society as a whole even if you don't care about your own butt in your old age.

You support perverse economic incentives by making it rational for people to stay home and do nothing unless they can get a job paying substantially more than $40000 per year.
Click to expand...

JC mothers at home raising kids are not doing "nothing". i would refer you to feminsm in general and works talkng about human captial for society. I think you can actually make a very solid economic argument that they are doing more than folks earning wages in many industries such as the cigarette industry, the padde bra industry etc. though it does provide eye candy.

Thanks again for showing the shallow allegedly hard headed "logic" of the econ 101 limited supplemented with Fox News or possibly Ron Paul.
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glynch · Aug 27, 2010

Wierd. Have I been banned from just one thread?

Dairy Ashford · Aug 28, 2010

glynch said:

Wierd. Have I been banned from just one thread?
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Please allow me to tell you the story of Sam Houston's birthday.

glynch · Aug 28, 2010

pouhe said:

Please allow me to tell you the story of Sam Houston's birthday.
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I'm all ears. Is this some sort of old Texas saying?

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