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2024 roster

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by IdStrosfan, Jun 18, 2023.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Yes.
     
  2. Rock Block

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    It was Dan Patrick but yea……
     
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  3. Fulgore

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    I wish
     
  4. Hemingway

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    If we keep winning, and we should given the competition, I could see resting Pena through the all-star break.
     
  5. raining threes

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    I wouldn't do this, but I could see trading Pena in a deal for Cease and Graveman.
     
  6. Hemingway

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    Pena ain’t going anywhere. That’s just silly.
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    I could see Pena signing a semi club friendly 10 year extension and finishing his career as the greatest SS in team history.

    Maybe 5 GG and 3 ASG but no silver sluggers.

    I can also see him being significantly more valuable right now as a trade piece than an actual contributor.

    He is good, maybe a top 10-15 SS in baseball, but over 162 games he is not a star.

    Last year= 102 wRC+/3.4 fWAR and 101 OPS+/4.9 bWAR. This year after 1/2 the year= 93 wRC+/1.3 fWAR and 93 OPS+/1.8 b WAR.

    There is no doubt that he can and does bring winning attributes to a team but this team is very short on trade assets and has dangerous holes. He can bring a difference maker while Dubon can fill in at SS with very little reduction in production.
     
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  8. raining threes

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    Like I said, I wouldn't do the deal, but there's a case to be made for trading him for a TOR young starter with multiple years of control. As long as you've got pitching you're ahead of the game.
     
  9. Hemingway

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    I respect you Idstros fan, but this is ridiculous. Pena will be here a long time and will get better and better. Dubon is a great utility guy and should get a lot of money next year to be that guy. People talk about the PR hit we would get for letting Dusty go. Trading Pena would be much worse.
     
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  10. raining threes

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    While I agree about not trading Pena, decisions shouldn't be made with PR reasons in mind. Luhnow should've taught us this, not doing the popular media/fans PR things is the reason the Stros are where they're at today. Thanks Jeff Luhnow
     
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  11. IdStrosfan

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    Everything you just wrote is true. ( except Dubon still has 3 years of control so won't be making TOO much)

    And as I said, I can totally see Pena being the starting Astros SS and ending up being the best ever in team history. While never being a top 5 SS in the league

    I just think Dubon COULD fill in with little to no drop off, and Pena COULD bring back a haul that could change the trajectory of this team in a meaningful and positive way.

    I agree the chances of said trade are very very small.

    And if Pena stays, I will cheer him for as long as he wears orange and navy.
     
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    If we had anyone in the minors that was capable of being an everyday shortstop (maybe we do and I am missing it) I would feel more comfortable trading Pena away. I would hate to have to rely on Dubon as the SS for the next three years. He could be good like this year or bad like last year. I would just hate to rely on the good right now. Think Montero but at SS.
     
  13. raining threes

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    I have no issues with Dubon at SS, I believe he's fixed his swing.

    However they definitely need to find some infield depth pieces if they made this trade. I've got little faith in Kessinger if anything happened to Dubon.
     
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    1b-Abreu
    2b-Altuve
    3b-bregman
    Ss-Peña
    LF-Chad/Julks/Yordan
    CF-Gilbert
    RF-Tucker
    DH-Yordan/Diaz
    C-Diaz
    Bench:
    C-FA(Lee traded)
    UTI-dubon
    OF: Chas, Julks

    SP
    Valdez
    Brown
    FA/Trade
    Javier
    France
    Urquidy

    RP
    Presley
    Abreu
    LMJ
    Montero
    Dubin
    Neris
    Martinez

    26 guy a rotation of call ups
     
  15. IdStrosfan

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    Neris is gone unless Brown decides to give him a Montero like deal.
     
  16. Mr.Pringles

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    Neris has recorded enough appearances too reach the 2024 option.
     
  17. Mr.Pringles

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    26 Man:

    C Diaz
    1B Abreu
    2B Altuve
    3B Bregman
    SS Pena
    LF Gilbert
    CF McCormick
    RF Tucker
    DH Alvarez

    C Maldonado
    IF Dubon
    FA IF/OF
    OF Meyers or Julks

    SP Valdez
    SP Brown
    SP Javier
    SP Urquidy
    SP Garcia or McCullers

    RP Pressly
    RP Abreu
    RP Neris
    RP Maton
    RP Montero
    RP Garcia or McCullers
    RP France or Bielak
    RP FA

    It’s pretty nice only needing a backup C, backup bench player and possibly a high leverage reliever in free agency
     
  18. IdStrosfan

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    What he triggered is control. It's no longer a club option, it's now a player option.

    He will opt out and look for a Montero type 3 year deal.
     
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  19. IdStrosfan

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    Starting lineup
    2B) Altuve
    CF) Gilbert
    DH) Alvarez
    3B) Bregman
    RF) Tucker
    1B) Abreu
    C) Diaz
    LF) McCormick
    SS) Pena

    Bench: Dubon, Meyers or Julks ( whichever isn't traded), Kessinger, Salazar

    Rotation
    Valdez
    Javier
    Brown
    McCullers
    Garcia
    Urquidy

    Bullpen
    Pressly
    Abreu
    Montero
    Martinez
    Mushinski
    France
    Blanco

    I see the team bringing in a veteran back up catcher to replace Salazar, A position player to upgrade Kessinger, and probably 2 veteran relief pitchers because that bullpen is weak after the top 2.

    Others who could compete in spring training: K.Lee, Dirden, Pedro Leon, Hensley, Whitley, Gage, Dubin
     
  20. Qan

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    Who's gonna be managing the 2024 roster?
     

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