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2024 Pitching Staff Circle of Trust

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Jul 2, 2024.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Who's in our circle of trust this year... assuming they are healthy?

    My list...
    Intimate
    Blanco
    Brown
    Scott

    Medium
    Abreu
    Hader
    Verlander
    Martinez
    Sousa
    King
    Contreras

    Low
    Pressly
    Valdez
    Arrighetti
    McCullers
    Bloss
    Dubin

    Non-Existent
    Montero
    Whitley
    Hernandez
     
  2. jjsmooth

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    This list puts you out of my circle of rationality
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    You’ve got Blanco too high. His FIP gonna catch up with him at some point in time. I think he’s probably a solid MOR guy. He’s pitched like an all star. I don’t think that’s who he is.
    Brown is almost back in my circle. Framber I trust to eat innings every start at least. If JV is healthy I trust him to not blow up and give us a competitive start where he goes 5-7 innings and gives up 2-4 runs. Thats not ace but good enough. I trust Abreu in the pen.
     
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    Sober-
    Verlander
    Brown
    Framber
    Blanco
    Hader

    3 beers in-
    Abreu
    Scott
    Martinez
    Garcia

    10 minutes before closing time
    Pressly
    Arrigheti
    Dublin

    Drunk dial:
    Mccullers
    Bloss

    Take one for the wing man:
    Montero
    Contreras
     
  5. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    The 3.82 ERA for a closer makes me hesitate with Hader. Framber's inconsistency scares me, and his trajectory is like a Boeing flight... 4 of 14 starts of giving up 5 runs or more
     
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    This is a case where we need to tighten security on the "Special" forum. Someone escaped.
     
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    Ryan Pressly has given up 1 earned run in his last 30 playoff innings pitched. He is one of the greatest high pressure athletes in the history of sports.
     
  8. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Also no blown postseason saves despite the number of postseason appearances.
     
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    Let's pray the rosary tonight and all will be well.
     
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    And you are who?
     
  12. IdStrosfan

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    I am actually very enthused about the bullpen the rest of 2024.

    Hader, Pressly, and Abreu don't look like the juggernaut we all thought coming in to the season, but they are all experienced leverage guys who will hold down a win the majority of the time.

    Taylor Scott has been great all season

    Shawn Dubin, Bryan King, and Luis Contreras have pitched very well.

    Seth Martinez has had some fortunate luck, but has been dependable and that's huge.

    To me the wildcard is Penn Murfee who has leverage stuff and been very good the past 2 years when healthy (look at his numbers) and is throwing bullpens and expected to be available next month.
     
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    Penn Murfee 2023 pitching ranks according to Baseball savant

    Sweeper (62.8%) xBA= .157 xSLG= .182
    4 seam FB (34.5%) xBA .=.266 xSLG= .423
    Sinker (2.7%) xBA= .260 xSLG= .284

    Sweeper: 4th out of 158 pitchers w/ 3.7 run value per 100 pitches.

    4 seam FB: tied for 106th out of 599 pitchers w/ 1.0 run value per 100 pitches. (for context Zach Wheeler is 1.0 this year)

    The current Astro w/ the best Sweeper is Shawn Dubin w/ a run value of 1.3 per 100. Seth Martinez and Spencer Arrighetti are the only other current Astros who use that pitch.

    Murfee will give the Astros another pitcher with an elite pitch and one more thing opponents will need to worry about and prepare for.
     
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    Astros currently with an elite pitch ( top 10th percentile run value)

    4 seam FB:
    Taylor Scott 24th of 464
    Seth Martinez 41st of 464

    Changeup:
    Taylor Scott 14th of 246

    Returning pitchers who have elite pitches:
    McCullers:
    Curveball 11th of 273 in 2022
    Slider 22nd of 448 in 2022
    Cutter 9th of 172 in 2022

    I know many fans have forgotten how good he can be, but don't sleep on McCullers pitching like an All Star in September and in the postseason.
     
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  15. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    I have Whitley ahead of Framber in my circle of trust
     
  16. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Alright Contreras just got demoted off my list completely.
     

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