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2024 - 2025 Season Stat Projections

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jch1911, Jul 2, 2024.

  1. jch1911

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    I have never seen this feature on basketball reference before.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/about/projections.html

    I looked at the Rockets for the upcoming season. All are per 36 #s.

    I couldn't figure out how to imbed so I will summarize & provide the links

    Alperen Sengun: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sengual01.html
    21.6 pts / 10.6 bds / 5.3 dimes / 2.3 stocks / .317 3% / WS(48) .134

    Jalen Green: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenja05.html
    22.7 pts / 5.3 bds / 4 dimes/ 1.3 stocks / .346 3% / WS(48) .043

    Fred VanVleet: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vanvlfr01.html
    17.7 pts / 3.9 bds / 7.3 dimes / 2.2 stocks / .370% 3% / WS(48) .139

    Dillon Brooks: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brookdi01.html
    15.9 pts / 4.1 bds / 2.4 dines / 1.3 stocks / .345% 3% / WS(48) .053

    Steven Adams: No projection because of knee injury

    Jabari Smith Jr.: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithja05.html
    15.8 pts / 9 bds / 1.8 dimes / 1.8 stocks / .358 3% / WS(48) .082

    Amen Thompson: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompam01.html
    15.9 pts / 10.4 bds / 4.3 dimes / 3 stocks / .213 3% / WS(48) .139

    Jeff Green: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenje02.html
    14.2 pts / 4.8 bds / 2.1 dimes / 1.2 stocks / .315 3% / WS(48) .096

    Jock Landale: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/landajo01.html
    14.8 pts / 8.6 bds / 2.9 dimes / 2.1 stocks / .281 3% / WS(48) .134

    Jae'Sean Tate: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tateja01.html
    12.2 pts / 6.8 bds / 3.1 dimes / 1.9 stocks / .308 3% / WS(48) .077

    Aaron Holiday; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/holidaa01.html
    13.9 pts / 3.7 bds / 4 dimes / 1.6 stocks / .388 3% / WS(48) .082

    A.J. Griffin: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/griffaj01.html
    15.9 pts / 4.4 bds / 2.1 dimes / 1.4 stocks / .372 3% / WS(48) .048

    Tari Eason: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/easonta01.html
    16.2 pts / 10.3 bds / 2.1 dimes / 3.1 stocks / .360 35 / WS(48) .091

    Cam Whitmore: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitmca01.html
    23.3 pts / 7.5 bds / 1.8 dimes / 1.9 stocks / .374 3% / WS(48) .082

    Reed Sheppard: rookie = no NBA stats



    My projection takeaways:
    1) Starters: FVV - Jalen - Cam - Bari (or Tari) - Sengawd
    2) Bench order: Amen - Tari (or Bari) - Adams / Landale - Brooks - Holiday / Sheppard - Green - Griffin - Tate
    3) Jalen's WS(48) is scary for a starter (as is Brooks so maybe off the bench)
    4) Cam & Bari possibly need to share the rock more
    5) Amen & Sengawd gotta get those 3% up (but you already knew that)
     
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    By those projections, Amen and FVV are tied as the Rockets best player for this season by their WS.48 measure with Sengun really close. Last year, it was Sengun with FVV and Amen really close.
     
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    There is no chance Jalen’s points per game is higher than Sengun..
     
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    This ain't mlb.

    Winshares is a pretty poor advanced analytic
    Just for some perspective on how bad it is, Green had a higher offensive winshares in his sophomore season than Ant during his third season.
     
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    That seems like an irrational take?

    Green will always have the potential for higher scoring simply from the fact that he can go hot from three levels of the court where Sengun can only get "hot" from inside the paint.

    A consistent Green will score more than Alpi. The month of March for Green is the highest peak a Rocket player has reached since MVP level Harden.

    Sengun right now has the advantage of consistency and the gap in ppg was like 1 ppg last season.


    To say it's impossible when Jalen Green is a consistent jump shot away from blowing the doors of Sengun's ppg is kinda insane.

    I'm not even saying it's a greater than 50% chance Green will average more. He very well could continue being inconsistent. But there is a vast gap between ""no chance" and ""more than likely". The reasonable take is that the chance is somewhere between.

    But to say it's impossible when they are separated by one ppg is absurd especially considering that one player here out of the two just has significantly more ways to score.

    If Jalen Green's 3 pt percentage next season is 35% or higher he will probably average more PPG than Sengun. And I'm not even saying that will make him the best player.

    I'm just saying here is a very realistic route for Green to average more PPG than Sengun next season.
     
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    I know projections aren't perfect and win shares isn't good. That said, I do expect FVV, Amen, and Sengun to be really good next year and that those three were really good last year (I would have FVV over Sengun).
     
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    By those projections, Jock Landale is clearly 3rd best on WS/48.

    Gives me a whole lot of confidence in the protections...
     
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    Every stat that shows Jalen Green is awful at basketball is flawed.

    - the cult
     
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    Noice find.... thanks for sharing
     
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    @ 36 minutes a game... who knows?

    Someone pointed out that the Rox were undefeated last year in every game Landale started (not sure if true)... data is data.
     
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    Except in the hands of people that have no clue what they're looking at or how to interpret it. lol. :D
     
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