The consensus was Young over Stroud by almost everyone. That mistake at least makes sense. No one but Nick wanted Green over Hamilton. Inexcusably stupid.
If so, the GM has to know when to say no. Hamilton was considered a unicorn at safety; Green was JAG.
Maybe true... but I personally had Zion Johnson, Cole Strange, Zach Tom, & Cam Jurgens rated WAY ahead of him. In college, Green struck me as just a road grader and.... here we are
With all due respect, this is BS. There was no consensus pick but if you don't make the right pick at No.1, it's a bigger F up than a mid first round pick. Not excusable to miss at No. 1 I can't believe this is even being said.
Disagree completely. It’s inexcusable when it’s beyond obvious that one prospect is better than the other. Doesn’t matter where in the first round. Young vs Stroud wasn’t obvious and the consensus was Young was better. Hamilton over Green was beyond obvious. Choosing Young over Stroud might have been a disaster and yeah might have gotten a GM fired. But it would have been rational. Green over Hamilton was irrational, irresponsible, illogical, and inexcusable.
I would bet money that any team that wasn't already setat safety would have taken Hamilton over Green
BDN spoke on that recently. He had Davis, Hamilton and Green all ranked within each other. Definitely thought if he could still get one of his guys along with some assets why not. You win some you lose some. Different system. My only issue with the pick is continuing to play him without earning it. Glad we're beyond that but only due to injuries.
Need to build a team from the ball out. Seems like a lot to invest in a Safety - do you want to pay a premium for that position? The D is already elite with the secondary we have.
I agree, but Green wasn't the chopped liver at the time that some people make the decision out to be. I had the draft like this at the time. Would you be against my rankings at the time? Remember they needed IDL/IOL in the worst way at the time. Jordan Davis Hamilton Green
You had Green way too high... I know Zion has been slightly better, but I had Zion big time over Green. Green looked sloppy and Zion had much better measureables. Green's shuttle time alone was scary AF IIRC. I am trying to remember my board from 2022 draft. I remember being scared of Sting b/c of injuries, but I was ok with it (tho Sauce was appealing). Liked Woolen AND McCollum over Sting :eyes emoji: Edge Hutchinson, Paschal (could not believe Lions got them both), Cameron Goode S Hamilton, JT Woods (ooops), Cine (ooops 2X), Tycen Anderson TE Woods (WAS SUPER HIGH on him... like ridiculously so), Bellinger, Kolar CB Tariq Woolen or Zyon McCollum (yes, both over Sting... LOL), Stingley or Sauce, then McDuffie, Damarri Mathis IDL Davis, Matt Henningsen, Timmy Horne RB Breece Hall (really thought he would fall to us in 2nd), KW3, Pacheco, Rachaad White, Pierce (but only b/c everybody else said so), Strong WR Watson, Bo Melton IOL Zach Tom (just super mad about him falling & not getting him), Zion Johnson, Cole Strange (way too high), Jurgens, Waletzko LB Brandon Smith (cannot believe he busted), Chanel, Muma ST Dicker I think my ideal draft was 1-3 Hamilton (trade down a lil bit) 1-13 Zion (with a trade down... so BDN got the trade part right) 2-37 Hall (stupid Jets) 3-68 Paschal (went higher than expected) 3-80 Tom 4 Brandon Smith 4 Woods (lot higher than I expected) 4 Woolen (went a lot lower than I expected) UDFA Horne, Melton, Dicker (I hardly know her)
I had Sauce > Stingley due to injury history. Green > Zion. Level of competition and play on field was better than Zion's. Zion had the better combine, but I dont put as much stock in the combine results as some because Green was recovering from injury. Paschal- Check Safety - Hamilton, Cine who would've been really good without that devastating injury, JT Woods TE Woods I liked a lot. If Indy cuts him this offseason I would still take a flier on him. Woolen I was very high on 3rd rd. I liked McCollum a lot. Davis- was my guy, but I liked Wyatt a lot too Hall was the guy I wanted, but as a general philosophy I dont believe in picking RB's that high. Loved Watson/Melton. Wanted to trade back into the bottom of the 1st for Watson. Loved the same IOL you did. Green/Zion/Strange Juergens were my guys. Loved Josh Ball too as a LT. Muma was my guy. Dicker- check.
iirc, there were large concerns about Hamilton's ability to cover downfield. Those concerns were unwarranted, but they were there. We ended up drafting Hamilton Lite in Pitre that same draft, right? ... and yes, Kenyon Green over most anybody was a bad call. It happens to everybody.
So those All Pro interior linemen look like corn fed white boys who got drafted after the 1st round. Just saying.
