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2022 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Am I the only one who sees nothing but a cartoon bluebird in these posts?
     
  3. Joe Joe

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    Only for a second and then the tweet loads.
     
  4. tellitlikeitis

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    this one might still be in flight

     
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    Was that off of former Astros prospect Yohan Ramirez?
     
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    Looks like it
     
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    Here's how we project their lineup in 2025, with their 2025 ages in parentheses.

    PROJECTED 2025 LINEUP

    Catcher: Korey Lee (26)
    First Base: Joe Perez (25)
    Second Base: Jose Altuve (34)
    Third Base: Alex Bregman (31)
    Shortstop: Jeremy Peña (27)
    Left Field: Chas McCormick (30)
    Center Field: Jake Meyers (29)
    Right Field: Kyle Tucker (28)
    Designated Hitter: Yordan Alvarez (28)

    No. 1 Starter: Lance McCullers (31)
    No. 2 Starter: Framber Valdez (31)
    No. 3 Starter: Luis Garcia (27)
    No. 4 Starter: Cristian Javier (28)
    No. 5 Starter: Jose Urquidy (30)
    Closer: Hunter Brown (26)

    BEST TOOLS

    Best Hitter for Average: Yainer Diaz
    Best Power Hitter: Scott Schreiber
    Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Grae Kessinger
    Fastest Baserunner: Michael Sandle
    Best Athlete: Zach Daniels
    Best Fastball: Hunter Brown
    Best Curveball: Hunter Brown
    Best Slider: Shawn Dubin
    Best Changeup: Jaime Melendez
    Best Control: Brett Conine
    Best Defensive Catcher: Korey Lee
    Best Defensive Infielder: Jeremy Peña
    Best Infield Arm: Jeremy Peña
    Best Defensive Outfielder: Jordan Brewer
    Best Outfield Arm: Pedro Leon
     
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    Some interesting names in the “best” categories. Schreiber has had decent power but it’s very surprising to see him listed as the best power hitter in the system. Same for Kessinger (plate discipline), Sandle (baserunning), and Diaz (average).

    I will be watching Sandle’s performance closely next season. I would imagine if he has that kind of speed that he will get time in CF, and if he’s able to continue showing the power he did last season (which will be inflated by High A’s parks) his stock will skyrocket.
     
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    Hunter Brown as a closer? That would be a disappointment. As would Leon not being a solution in the outfield.

    Also, I might be a starry eyed optimist, but I’m holding out hope that Whitley rises from the dead.

    It’s a good exercise though. Shows that our pitching will be very good for a while (that rotation is really strong, even without Forrest or Hunter … or Farmer, Savage, and Mordecai).

    But we need reinforcement in the OF and a solid Yuli replacement. Get those, and the window stays wide open…
     
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    BA's top 10 Astros prospects:

    1. Korey Lee
    2. Jeremy Pena
    3. Hunter Brown
    4. Pedro Leon
    5. Joe Perez
    6. Alex Santos
    7. Tyler Ivey
    8. Jaime Melendez
    9, Tyler Whitaker
    10. Peter Solomon
     
  12. Snake Diggit

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    Tyler Ivey is a surprise choice that high. Otherwise it seems better than the last few Astros top 10s BA has put out the last couple years.
     
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    The guy in the BA chat labeled Houston as a bottom 5 system. I think that’s stupid. This system has consistently out-produced most systems despite the Astros picking late and trading away many of their best prospects. And the system obviously took a big step forward last year as Lee and Pena became near-consensus Top 100 guys and Leon and Brown put themselves in the conversation.

    This system is not a top tier farm; there are too many other teams with stacked farms. But there’s a solid argument that it’s a middle tier system, and really no rationale for labeling it in the bottom 5. If you only value elite talent, then they probably rank in the 18-22 range; if you value depth and development track record, they are probably in the 10-16 range.
     
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    I have them at 19-20 dropping some before the end of next season due to a few grads coming off and the next wave being mostly unestablished.
     
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    I heard similar things from commercial publication experts for the last handful of years…. and then Valdez and Garcia and Javier and Urquidy and Meyers and McCormick happened… exactly like Luhnow said would happen 3 years ago when he said international hitting and a few outfielders were going to break through.

    At some point the Astros farm system really will be a bottom 5 system but I don’t think it is now. There are a number of guys that may not be dead bang superstars, but are very good in the Astros system and I suspect a couple all star births at some point.
     
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    Even when we had a garbage system back in the day, we ended up with an MVP (and possible HOF) in Altuve, a Cy Young with a couple of AS games in Keuchel, and a 4-time AS in JD Martinez.
     
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    All those guys you listed were in the system when it was ranked very highly in 2019. Half the BA Top 10 for the Astros were in system in 2019 the last time the Astros system was Top 5. The difference between when the Astros were ranked highly and now is that Alvarez, Tucker, Straw, Valdez, Garcia, Javier, Urquidy, Meyers, McCormick, Toro, Rojas, Alvarez, and Tucker have graduated/traded and been replaced by Lee, Leon, Santos, Whitaker, and Brown. Even the low level arms, Melendez, Tamarez, and Robaina predated the 2019 season when Alvarez and Tucker graduated and the Greinke trade occured.

    Personally, I value Alvarez, Tucker, Straw, Valdez, Garcia, Javier, Urquidy, Meyers, McCormick, Toro, Rojas, Alvarez, and Tucker significantly higher than than the guys the Astros have added in the last 2 and half years.
     
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    I’m pretty sure Alvarez and Tucker were the only two of that entire list who ever made the BA Top 100. If anything your list highlights the idea that the Houston’s 2nd and 3rd tier prospects are likely underrated.
     
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    None of the guys I listed were large prospects and had little to do with the ranking of the farm system (which I said was underrated at the time). The Astros have a track record of players being under valued in commercial prospect rankings the last 7-8 years.
     
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    A few other notes from the chat with Rome:

    1. Freudis Nova tore the ACL in his left knee. Welp
    2. So... Forrest Whitley showed up out of shape... on purpose???
    3. He touted Roilan Machandy as his complex-league sleeper.
    4. Yainer Diaz will be #16 in the top 30 once the book comes out.
    5. 2022 is probably a prove-it year for Shay Whitcomb. He's shown that he can hit the ball hard, but obviously, he'll be tested in Corpus.

    We've been doing this long enough to know that where a minor league system ranks is largely tied to the star power potential of its top prospects, so I'm not really sweating that.
     
    #40 tellitlikeitis, Jan 17, 2022 at 8:15 PM
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