Reports are out that Ohio governor John Kasich and Colorado governor John Hickenlooper are discussing/exploring a possible unity ticket for president in 2020 with Kasich at the top of the ticket and Hickenlooper as VP. Thoughts?
No, having 3 viable parties would just hand Trump the presidency. His core following will still vote for him regardless, and then the other side would just split in 2. Dems would prefer to just run their own candidate, and Republicans who want Trump gone would have a better chance nominating another candidate during primaries.
They wouldn't stand a chance, they wouldn't be conservative enough for strong Republican support, and they wouldn't be liberal enough to not be called literal Nazis by Democrats.
Complete waste of time, especially with the Electoral College. Neither guy has anything to lose. Republicans should love this idea. Dems should hate it.
I like it in theory, but it seems like a situation that could give Trump a backdoor avenue to re-election. It depends heavily on who the Democrats nominate, but my guess is that a Republican/Democrat ticket that ran independent would siphon off more votes from the Democratic candidate than from Trump. It's pretty realistic in this scenario that Trump could have a sub-30% approval rating at election time and still win with something like only 35% of the overall vote. Of course, there's tons of speculation here given that we're over 3 years away from the next presidential election. Obviously this has been the issue with the two-party system for a while though. In a normal world, I would be okay with more options come election day even if it meant that it might hurt the ticket that I support most and resulted in a reasonable Republican winning, but the fact that I think it would ultimately help Trump more than hurt him is what gives me hesitation about whether I think it's actually a good idea.
Kasich is not a moderate. He would have to promise not to promote Pro Life policies and judges. If Kasich is at the top of the ticket, he would have to run as Republican and have zero chance of beating Two Scoops, unless it is President Pence by that time. If Hickenlooper is at the top of the ticket, he would have a better chance of winning the Democratic nomination. In the general election, a Hickenlooper/Kasich ticket would beat Two Scoops with a stick. I have a really hard time seeing Two Scoops actually running in 2020. I see him self-destruction way before 2019.
Kasich is a right wing hack. I mean the main thing I want is universal healthcare and a guy like him would never be on board. Most of his policies are way to the right. I would favor a republican like Bloomberg or huntsman.
"Unless the candidate agrees with core liberal policies they are a right wing hack, not a moderate" If anyone that isn't pro-choice and for universal single payer is a right wing hack to you then why don't you just say that you'd never support an actual Republican?
Most positions I don't really care about. I am fine with being fiscally conservative except for healthcare. A single healthcare system would be cheaper than having a bunch of random insurance companies. Healthcare doesn't follow basic economic tenants. Its quite inelastic. He also voted for banning gay marriage act. I mean why republicans get a hard on from banning gay people from getting married? He is against abortions. He is against MJ. Most of his policies are pretty right wing.
Curious, he listed Huntsman and Bloomberg as candidates he could support. Are they not "actual" republicans?
I'm not a R voter, but any ticket with Kasich gets my vote. He seems extremely level-headed and intelligent. A welcome site in the oval office. Scratch that, love Huntsman as well.
Bloomberg left the Republican party for good. Politically I think he is a moderate independent. He did speak at the 2016 Democratic Convention, supporting Hillary. I could support him for President, but I am not sure that he can get out of a Democratic primary. I like Huntsman, but he is right of center and pro life, which Democrats will not support.
How about anyone w a shred of common sense and whose inner circle can avoid predicting civil war if things don't go their way? This ticket works. I mean, I hear people arguing policy but I fear we are so far beyond that. I want an adult w any respect for our institutions and even a shallow working knowledge of the historical world.
You have to realize how far left this board is and how far left the average Democrat has moved in the past decade or so. We're at a point where some of the people here probably think that Obama was too much of a right wing hack for their tastes. Anything to the right of Bernie Sanders probably wouldn't be liberal enough for this board.
