Hello Internet people .. .. . it's Beau . . .. oops Wrong personality *grin* Seriously though. I have a simple question. The Democrats have not won the White Vote in nearly 50 yrs Why? What in particular . . .do White people hate/dislike about the Democrat's platform? No Judgement Just genuinely curious Rocket River (we can talk about the minority vote in another thread if you like Let's not distract and divert)
Doesn't really answer the question, but these days, you have to break up whites with college degrees and whites without college degrees. https://news.gallup.com/poll/248525/non-college-whites-affinity-gop-trump.aspx Non-College Whites Had Affinity for GOP Before Trump and this link shows that only 40% of whites have a degree higher than an Associate's degree: https://www.equityinhighered.org/in...educational-attainment-by-race-and-ethnicity/
Well, I don't know. But, I also suspect you're asking the question backwards. Political campaigns and parties do lots of racial demographics studies, studies by class, education, income, geography, etc. Then they set their platform and marketing on a go-to-market strategy where they feel like they can put together a coalition to win. 60 years ago, the Republican party started to try to capture that Southern white vote, and that strategy has gradually evolved over time but the central tenet remains -- do what you have to do to earn the white vote, the biggest voting bloc in the election. So I say the question is backwards because it's not whites choosing the Republican agenda but the Republicans choosing the white agenda.
My take? This is a huge generalization but I think whites (which have a lower unemployment rate than non-whites) don't want to give their money to people who don't work - white or non-white. Reps want to you to keep your money and Dems want to "redistribute" the money. I'm white and I vote every time but I haven't voted for a Rep president since Bob Dole in 96 - but I haven't voted for Dem's either. I will in the 2020 election though - he's got to go!
In a two party system you cannot win every demographic or it becomes a one party system. For all the criticism our system gets, it IS an extremely competitive two party system. Ever since the mid 1960's the democrats have courted and cobbled together minority interests. In turn the republicans court white voters.
It's never going to happen but I wish they'd get rid of the 2 party system. It's nothing but bickering and fighting. Let an individual stand on his own merits and ideas. If you want to be pro-life and stricter gun control - then ok. If a bill has all the things you like - then vote for it. To me this whole 2 party system has long since run it's course. 2 more things I'd like to see but will never happen - 1) outlaw lobbying (it's legalized bribery) and 2) term limits (these perpetual government officials don't care about anything more than getting reelected - which takes money - which see #1).
Hillbilly Elegy is a great book about the Midwest, but could apply to whites across the country in my opinion. There's this "tough love and bootstrapping" themes along with the belief that welfare is above them.
It's a simple answer, but Juan is right that it's backwards. It's strategy on the GOP's part. LBJ signed into law the Civil Rights act, and immediately Nixon and the GOP enacted the "Southern Strategy" which led to the southern Dixiecrats switching parties to the Republicans. Then Republicans down the line from George H.W. Bush and the Willie Horton ads to Trump's everything racism have kept steady with this strategy since Nixon. It's a strategy to seek out White Voters because there have historically been more voters who are White in the US. The fact that still a large percentage of white people (even though not a majority) still vote for Democrats speaks to the questionable success of the strategy long term, and whether or not the party of Trump now has a path forward after 2020. We'll see if they can thread the needle again with an electoral college strategy through the mostly white lower income rust belt states, but long term even those states are going to become more and more diverse and gentrified unless there's a long lasting depression that keeps progress in the US stagnant or reverses trends of suburban spread with more and more of these states looking demographically like suburbs of a major city rather than small rural towns.
I used to disagree about term limits and I would argue that we have term limits every 2, 4 and 6 years. But it's evident that things continue to not improve in order to get new blood into positions of power
Nice little conversation about this topic. More at the link than what I quoted below. https://psmag.com/news/authoritarianism-the-terrifying-trait-that-trump-triggers AUTHORITARIANISM: THE TERRIFYING TRAIT THAT TRUMP TRIGGERS Latent authoritarianism is surprisingly common—and a threat to liberal democracy. Psychologist Karen Stenner explains how it is triggered.
If it's above them why are so many on it? https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/welfare-recipients-by-state
So basically the White Vote is the consequence of effective Republican Strategy. They tend to have hypocrisy on lock they look down on others for the same thing they do Rocket River
I had never bothered looking at this breakdown before. How in the world did O win 2012? That's like a -40 in Maury's +/- stats. More impressed now.
I think look at the propaganda and strategy designed around the concept of Antifa and the fear of liberals. There's no rationale for personal experience informing motivation. It's simply that they are told to be afraid of Antifa, and they are told Antifa= Democrats... so don't vote Democratic.... Give Trump more power to fight Democrats and Antifa. It's a pretty simple strategy for power. -Willie Horton ads -Bush era "terrorist" fear propaganda -Black Lives Matter fear campaign in Obama era -Trump and the "Caravan" of brown people coming for you -etc. etc. It's all propagated irrational fear campaigns.... with the one outlier being Antifa fear campaign which doesn't tied in race & fear. It's just blanketing ALL Democrats... not just fear of black and brown people. So we'll see if it works like racial fear campaigns did in the past when the personal faces of Antifa end up being pimple faced 18 year old white kids that work at Freebirds. Right now Antifa is virtually faceless because there's so few actual people they can tie to that movement like they could Willie Horton, name your scary Muslim, etc. So I really don't know if Antifa fear works on a massive scale but it does work with the FoxNews and Right Wing Facebook crowd because those people will believe anything.
Because this is mostly a zero sum game, and white people, (and I say this, as a white male), have disproportionate advantages in the way things are. Republicans intend to push us further and further down this path, and Democrats want equality.
Before Trump and the Republican decline from ideological consistency (Dub**** got the ball rollin), I would say people voted for their own interests. Wipipo aren't homogenous, but there are some traits in Republicanism that's appealing, such as their worship of symbols (flag and Founding Fathers), God and family values. The pro-business vibe also greatly benefits people with equity beyond housing. Then again the dog whistles are also appealing in a shameful breaking-taboo kind of way "law and order", "no handouts", "work with what you have" are shameless plugs for Other People, but when you or your own gets caught in it (like a heroin charge or disaster relief), some Compassion is sorely needed!! Ofc, the California Republican is different than the Georgia Republican. But self interests works in different ways. Someone might infer from the topic as a chance to resent whitey (not saying that was OP's intention), but that ignores the ton of white Democrats who believe in inclusion and fairer standards. That should be appreciated in our long march towards multicultural equality rather than being taken for granted.
