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2006/2007 Cap Flexibility

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tshay, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. tshay

    tshay Member

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    First post on this board....

    I was excited about the moves that the Rox made today and then I checked out the salary cap situation and almost started to drool.

    HoopsHype Rox Salaries

    After next season, we will have $20MM in salaries coming off the books (Norris, Baker, Spoon and Wesley). It appears that we have only $26MM in commited salaries for the following season. This includes Yao's option year salary of $7.2MM which we've already exercised.

    I'm no CAP expert but since the current cap is $44MM we should have
    **SIGNIFICANT** space to be major players in the FA market and/or trade the valuable expiring contracts for good role players. With Yao and Tracy in place, FA's should be drooling to play in Houston.

    Obviously, Yao's class could all be potential free agents -- anyone else know who else will be a free agent in 2006/7?
     
  2. Man

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    Hi

    ? Won't we have to resign Yao with a bigger contract..taking up more space and more of the budget?

    So we won't have that much..and we will probably resign several of the guys..and some other guys like our first round draft pick or Badiane and stuff.

    It'd be nice if we could create some cap space to sign a guy like..RASHARD LEWIS :)
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    I wonder who will be available after the 2006 season ends...
     
  4. Chilly_Pete

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    If that is correct the team has an option on Ward after this season and Moochie after next.
     
  5. airbulllard

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    sorry. but anybody know of one of these kind of sites for football salaries?
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    Try Yao Ming.

    We will have minimal room to be "players" in the FA market. Tracy will be making around 17 mill, and Yao will be making the max (around 10 mill). Throw in 10 mill for Sura+Howard, and you're at 37 million for 4 players. Even if the cap expands to 60 mill (which is a gross overestimate), another 9 mill player means you're looking at 14 mill to spend on the last 10 roster slots. If we can get one more solid 5 mill player this offseason, using either an expiring contract or the MLE, that's 9 mill for 9 slots. And this is if the cap is at 60 mill!

    The contracts do have value. Golden State added a 25 year old all-star point guard for an expiring contract, and a cheap marginal PG. Having 20 mill worth of them, in various denominations will give us a chance to land a contributor on a longer contract if we so choose.
     
  7. franchise23

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    Yeah i think the key will be trying to trade for guys who have longer contracts (for example like the Webber and B. Davis deals). Hopefully there are teams out there that have a PF they want to get rid of and are willing to dump him for trash. If we cant make a trade we would still have some extra cap space to go after free agents but I dont think we will ever be BIG players in free agency with two max guys.

    The first guy that pops in my mind that we could trade for is E. Brand. Not sure if the Clippers have any interest in trading him (probably dont) but you just never know with the Clippers and Donald Sterling.
     
  8. rezdawg

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    We can be major players in the FA market. When you resign your own players (Yao and TMac), you gain flexibility against the cap. In that case, we dont have to be under the cap.

    Therefore, being 20 million under the cap for the 06/07 season means that we will have a crap load of money to spend. Not only will our studs get their payraises, but we will be able to add the missing pieces of the puzzle.

    And Ben Wallace will be a FA.
     
  9. NIKEstrad

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    :confused: :confused:

    I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Teams have the flexibility to resign their own players regardless of their cap situation, but resigning your own guys doesn't give you extra ability to acquire others.

    If you're over the cap, and you have a contract that expires, if the rest of your team is still over the cap, you don't get capspace.
     
  10. MrRolo

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    I think he means since we can resign Yao for the max no matter what our cap situation is, then we will have the $$ that we got/shredded from the deals to sign a FA to fill in the peice missing.
     
  11. Sherlock

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    NIKEstrad, in my understanding, even if we've extended Ming's contract, we'd have 9 mil under the salary cap to sign a max FA.

    If we re-sign James and Barry (4.5mil), and then perhaps Deke to one year contracts, and pick up a MLE this summer (unfortunately I don't see us picking up Swift, since he'll command more than the MLE, but I could see us picking someone like Flip Murray), we'd still have 9-10 mil under the cap to work with. I realize that would mean possibly losing Wesley. But, if it was what it took to pick up a FA, such as Wilcox (I'm sure PHO will give Stoudamire the max and DET will do the same for Wallace), or Chandler, if he becomes an Unrestricted FA by signing a one year deal, like Swift did.

    Of course, if we pick up Payton next week, we will lose that capability.

    2006/7 Salaries:

    Tracy McGrady 16,901,500
    Yao Ming 7,273,377
    Juwon Howard 6,393,100
    Moochie Norris 4,550,000
    Bob Sura 3,800,000

    no other contracts signed, but assume we'd give Yao the max, resign James around 3 mil, and Barry around 1.5 mil, another MLE contract at 4.5 mil, and maybe Deke to another one year contract.

    Spoon, Wesley, Ward, Bowen, Padgett, Hamilton, Barrett, and Strickland will all be gone, except we might want to resign Wesley. I would think we'd want to do that after we signed an FA though. I guess we'd have to add in the first round pick as well as the two guys in Europe.
     
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  12. rezdawg

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    Yes, thats what I was supposed to say.
     
  13. sun12

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    That's a team option for Moochie, and it won't be picked up.
     
  14. Joshaaronb

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    Check out what these trades REALLY MEAN to us!!!

    I Know we want the best team NOW! but check out our contracts. In '06/'07 we are money, we go pick up who we want as long as we do well this offseason by not taking any long term contracts with anyone who isn't grade A for the next 2-3 years. Basiclly if CD surrounds TMac and Yao with some good utility players like he has this year, we make the playoffs '04/'05 '05/'06 and then sign a blockbuster point/power forward and close the holes to run for a 4-peat from '06/'07-'09/'10.

    Salaries per HoopsHype.com
     
  15. qrui

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    and after 06-07 you have two superstars salary to worry about...

    ps. i didn't know you can pay 21k for a nba player to play ball. who is brandin knight anyway?
     
  16. aelliott

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    Since we're all expaining what other people meant, I believe that Nike was pointing out that any unsigned free agents still count against your cap and at a higher rate. You can't just wait to sign Yao last and not have him count against your cap (at least not under the current CBA) until he's signed. Until Yao is either resigned or released, he'd still be counting against the Rockets cap.

    Alot of assumptions on what people were trying to say, but if you were thinking that your unsigned free agents didn't count against your cap and that you could just go sign free agents with your available money and then resign your own free agents with Bird Rights...well, that can't be done.
     
  17. pugsly8422

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    I believe we signed him to a 10-day contract right before we got Rod.

    Pugs
     
  18. Willis25

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    I don' think the rockets did this just so they could run out and sign someone else to a long term contract

    I think they will max out Tmac and Yao and them use the money to get good role players or vets that will take short term deals to play around Yao and Tmac (that is how the Lakers did it)
     
  19. Willis25

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    come on people - we just got rid of Mo and you all want to run out and give another inflated contract to a marginal player

    the rockets are going to max out Yao (and Tmac) and then sign role playing guys to 3-4 year deals for 3-5 M range

    there will be no more Mo Taylors - and that is a good thing
     
  20. blazer_ben

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    Talking about the birld rights?.
     

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