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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Brown Lost It, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. Brown Lost It

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    Didn't see this posted anywhere. Like I said, Capela got fouled on that rebound.

    4 Incorrect noncalls ALL against the Rockets in the final 2 minutes. Rockets lost by 2.

    Def 3 seconds on Westbrook not called
    Def 3 seconds on Adams not called
    They fouled Harden not called
    The foul on Capela's rebound not called.
     
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    Stunning.
     
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  3. heypartner

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    Man, that's pretty bad. I read a lot of reports last year and found it rare to see that many fouls/violations directly resulting in FT opportunities missed.

    imo, the Def 3 seconds is a huge miss. Just count to 3 guys. OKC was doing it before the last two minutes, as well. Teams are doing that to Harden to zone his drives/PnRs illegally in the 4th. Sometimes it's a third defender even....with two already out on the perimeter at point of attack.

    That said: It really was a 5-pt loss, not a 2pt loss. Gordon threw up a meaningless three as the clock sounded.
     
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    I'm amazed at some of the obvious misses that happen in games.

    Last night for example, there was a ball that Ariza (I think it was Ariza) swiped out of a Blazer hands. The Blazer reached for it and tapped it twice trying to grab it before it went out of bounds and the referee was literally RIGHT in front of the play. Still gave the ball to the Blazers. It wasn't a bang bang play either, the guy redirected the ball twice lol.
     
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    I'm hard pressed to think of any/many 3 second calls down the stretch of close games. You just don't see it. And it is seemingly a harder call to make then you might think. Guys are jumping in and out of the lane quickly. Refs have to be looking for lots of things, is the defender actually guarding someone, off the ball stuff, etc.

    It's kind of like traveling. Unless its super obvious down the stretch, probably not going to hear a whistle.
     
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    Last year one game we played in OKC looked pretty rigged, i don't know if someone of you guys remember but it was really frustrating. Like, a lot of terrible calls all in OKC favor. Last game didn't look the same obviously, but looking at this report...ugh...
     
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    "Ugh! Harden and the Rockets get all the calls!"
     
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    #mediaconspiracy continues
     
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    #heythatsmyline
     
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  11. FTW Rockets FTW

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    How many times are you going to keep posting the same thing?

    Got it, you are douche.

    Ignore
     
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  12. heypartner

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    Actually, all we know is defenses don't make this violation in the last 2 minutes. There are actually only 3 other INC on this violation in the 57 games the league published a report his year.

    These are not hard calls to make. Check it out. NOTE: "Defender must completely clear" the lane with both feet.

    Both Adams and WB are illegal at the same time.



    We are running a 5 Out Motion play there. There are no cutters through the lane. Simple call to make.

    That said: You're right. It rarely, if ever, gets called. But, also, teams rarely commit this violation. I just looked at the Archives covering the season to date. There are only 3 INC missed Def 3 seconds out of 57 games.

    Remember they do both CNC and INC. And they do have something called "Detectable with a stopwatch" that they list, but don't make a ruling. They list CNC for this violation to show how a player did get both feet out. So, the actual INCs (Incorrect Non Call) are egregious like the one above ... vs "detectable with a stopwatch."

    Here's one of the other 3 ones in 57 games. These are easy calls to make ... egregious



    I can make a guess why defenses never make these violations. I'm sure because its a technical foul and the ball, and its easy to detect when offenses slow down in the end-game and try to spread defenses out of the lane.
     
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    We should also note that the report of the Rockets win over the Spurs lists an INC Nene fouling Leonard on that last play. So, although those are rarely called (it was after release of the shot), he should have gone to the line with a chance to tie the game with FTs. But, we get the ball with 2 seconds left, if so.
     
  14. Brown Lost It

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    I admit, that game was gift wrapped to the Rockets by the officials. They were missing Tony Parker and we needed every call to go our way and they did.
     
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    It's kind of funny that for almost two decades the NBA had to fight the portrayal that you only needed to watch the last 2 minutes, which they successfully transcended, and now we get these crazy 2 minute reports and apologies from the league and it's officials, lol.
     
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    That 6 missing free throw attempts in a 2 point loss......
     
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    http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/11/L2M-HOU-OKC-11-16-16.pdf

    See my post above. The Def 3 seconds is really just one incorrect call, since Adams and WB are illegal at the same time. It's the same play.

    The INC on Harden is a rebound that he would not have gotten. I can't get upset about that.

    But, Westbrook swiping Capela's arms on that last rebound is pretty bad.
     
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  19. heypartner

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    No.
    • The two Def 3-seconds occurred at the same time. It would have only been 1 technical foul if either Adams or WB is called. See my video above.
    • INC call on Harden was an offensive rebound that he would not have gotten. It was clearly still Adam's rebound. I can understand the no-call. Even still, that's a foul on the floor. I don't think we were in the penalty.
    • WB's foul on Capela was a defensive rebound. I still don't think we were in the penalty. And if so, it's bad for us. Capela goes to the line down by 3 with 7 seconds left. You could say that's a good foul for WB to make, if we were in the penalty.
    Also, it really was a 5pt loss. Gordon hit an unguarded, meaningless 3ptr with 0 seconds left on the clock to end the game.

    Here's the INC on Harden. Roberson hooking Harden. Pretty minor.

     
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    The WB non-call was the killer. With no call the Thunder had the inbounds. If it is called we get one last shot at a 3-pointer to tie. Who knows what happens, but the possibility was lost.
     
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