2 Christian organizations are ready to convert Iraqis

As Jerry always says to Kramer: "Oh yea. I like this idea."

 

That should go over well.

 

you may be right, but it does sound like it really may be domineering. "if the situation presents itself..."

Missionary-like things of this nature is one of the reasons I don't believe in organized religion.

 

There is nothing wrong with this. These people have worked in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Rwanda, and Somalia, as the article states.

They are not going over there to specifically convert them. Providing relief is their main goal.

 

I really wish some people could mind their own damn business. I absolutely hate it when some old ass ladies give me those booklets with verses from the Bible and then telling me "the Lord is the only one that can lead you to salvation".

I have absolutely nothing against Christianity. I would feel the same way if some Hindu or Muslim or Jews tried to do that crap. If you believe in a particular religion, then more power to you. Just stop trying to change other people's beliefs.

One of these days I swear I will make a booklet of verses from Quran and the next person to hand me a booklet will get one themselves. I can just imagine the look on those crusty old ladies when I tell them, "Allah loves you no matter what".

 

First off, I agree with rH that the title of the article is inaccurate sensationalism.

Secondly, those who thumb their nose against missionary works and tell them to "mind their own business" should look at the proportion of all charitible works both at home and abroad that is done by "organized religion."

 

I have nothing against charitible works that is obviously done by some of these organizations. But must they try to convert whenever possible?

 

There is a huge difference between providing relief and charity and trying to convince someone that everything that they believe in is wrong.

 

Bingo amigo.

 

They aren't trying to do the latter.

 

Grow up. Christian missionaries are in many third-world countries all over the world providing food and shelter to less fortunate people. They also aren't coercing people to convert. Its strictly voluntary.

I think this is good because a better understanding of both religions comes from this. People are scared of Christians and Muslims and thats a damn shame.

 

Maybe that is the post-war strategy. Convert dem pagan Mooslims to Christianity. This is would be pretty audacious. I'm not sure even the crusaders of old were thinking conversion.

Maybe the US can tie all humanitarian aid, food and water and such to conversion to Christianity or at least sitting through harangues. If those who use the social safety net in the US have to be preached at by Christians to recieve services, why shouldn't the Iraqis have to sit through Christian preaching also?

Another good idea. Condition all aid to Israel and the Palestinians on their actively cooperating with efforts of Christians evangelicals to convert the Jews and the Muslims. If we make all the Jews and Palestinians born again then maybe they can live in peace together.

 

The lack of perspective and easy retort to conspiracy theories are astounding, or maybe not.

 

Actually, I don't see any difference at all. Missionaries perceive a need in many different aspects of people's lives. Their needs are financial, social, political and spiritual in nature and they try to address all those things. They try to help when they see someone in danger of perdition just as they try to help those in danger of starvation. It is charity both ways. Sometimes, the charity isn't accepted and that's fine. Baptists have a hard-sell compared to some other Protestant denominations, but they don't force anyone to go to church either. They talk about God with people who are interested in hearing it. I really don't see what the big deal is. Are you afraid they will make the Iraqis feel socially awkward?

 

That's bull****. I don't know of any Christian charity that would refuse you service if you wouldn't listen to the sermon.

 

We should give them swords and horses so it can like the Old School Crusades!!!! Oh yeah!!!

 

Glynch,
I thought you advocated tolerance and understanding?!?!?!?! I hope this is a really bad joke.

 

Good post.

No one is converted without being a willing party to it. (obviously, there are no forced "conversions" going on here, and even if there were, those would not be true conversions) Maybe these people are trying to share whatever they believe helps... food, help, and spiritual guidance... with those in need.

 

Juan, good point.