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12 man rotation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by binvegas, Oct 15, 2007.

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  1. binvegas

    binvegas Member

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    It can be done. I coach a very high competitive a AAU team and I use a 12 man rotation and it works quite well. Also the Nba all star games are a ten to twelve man rotation. The way it works is basically you keep fresh men on the court your main stars like T-Mac, Yao, Scola, get their minutes regardless. Everybody else you do heat checks, you may let Francis, Head, Wells, James, etc. when you bring one in if they miss all three of their first three shots you pull them out. Either one of those players are capable of a twenty plus night and you don't want them cemented on the bench because of depth.
     
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    i disagree. it doesn't work.
     
  3. Murph23

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    AAU is far from the NBA!

    9 man rotation is the ticket for this talented Rockets team.
     
  4. ak47

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    NBA = AAU ?
     
  5. binvegas

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    I do agree with the nine rotation. I no I was pushing it when I said twelve. Yes the NBA isnt AAU but as a coach to do this, you just need to have a good feel when to do it, I use to like the way Rudy use to always say his gut feeling. You just never no when you have alot of talent what would have happened if you didn't just for example play Steve on a particular night.
     
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    Coaching or managing with the gut doesn't guarantee success. Ask Phil Garner about that. You have a gameplan, stick to it, and then go with your gut if necessary.

    As for the topic, 12 can't be done. I think it was Tulane who used a 10 man rotation in the 80's and made it all the way to the FInal 4. They just separated their best players in 2 separate units and found guys who played well with them, and voila. THe starters would go 8 minutes straight and dominate, then in would come a new 5, they'd go 7 minutes straight and dominate, and the starting fresh unit would come right in.

    If any crazy coach were to utilize this plan (it can be done since we have so much talent), then this is how I'd do it:

    1st Unit:
    Yao
    Hayes
    Battier
    Francis
    James

    2nd Unit:
    Mutombo
    Scola
    Wells
    TMac
    Alston
     
  7. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    NBA < AAU
    :p
     
  8. allforone

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    ok , talk to Rick Adelman about this
    Maybe he has some other ideas.....
     
  9. binvegas

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    Knock AAU basketball all you want, before the high school rule, I have had conversation about my players with several NBA scouts, it is so competitive now that is why when some guys that could go straight to the league could be competitive.
     
  10. Pringles

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    a 12 man rotation can be done, but reasticaly a 8-10 man rotation is more realistic. some of our players are shooters, just plain shooters (lluther) and they have a bad night, dont' play them. i agree, that, no matter how good a player is, he has to be pulled. why? cause we have players that can score 20+ without waiting for a player to shoot into rythem.
     
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    A 10 man rotation works in today's NBA. Look how many playoff games that the Grizzlies won. Zero. Oh well...maybe I am wrong. :)
     
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    To be fair, the Grizzlies played 10 guys because their roster is set up well for that kind of rotation. But they still lack the stars necessary come playoff time.

    I think the Adelman should at least try to set up some sort of 10-man regular season rotation, at least at the beginning. An 82-game season is long indeed, and there's no reason to need to settle on 8 players right away. Use the last 20 games or so to set up an 8-man playoff rotation if necessary. I don't know how much of an effect JVG's style of playing starters huge minutes have on their condition come playoff time... but if we have the personnel to rest our stars more during the regular season, that can only be a good thing.
     
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    I feel the same way too.
     
  14. Barkley

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    12 man rotation wouldn't be that bad, but I agree. It does not work
     
  15. Yaozer

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    If you're talking about splitting the time similar to Tulane with our Rockets team.. I don't know how long Mutombo will last. I don't think doing it Tulane style would work at all but just fantasizing, if we were to do it, it would be:

    1st:
    Yao
    Hayes
    Battier
    Tmac
    SF3

    2nd:
    Butler
    Scola
    Wells
    James
    Rafer

    Realistically, Tmac and Yao will start regardless. It's a crazy idea and I don't think this will ever nor should it ever be used in the regular season.. but from spectator's standpoint, I would love to see this on a preseason/exhibition game.

    [/end fantasy]
     
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    in the playoffs. but maybe on the season it'll work. look at juawn howard. he was a non-factor in the playoffs. might have been from yao being injured. we want to prevent that from any of our players. it also helps to prepare for our future, the 2nd "mode" with yao. preparing our young players like luther/brooks/landry/harris.
     
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    Maybe. 9 man rotation looks like a little too short for our roster. Francis, James, Hayes, Mutombo, Wells, Brooks, Harris, Head, etc...
     
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    Man this is gonna be some tough decision for Adelman. If he wants to go to a 9 man rotation.. who will it be?

    The only players that I think has a lock for some PT are:
    Tmac, Yao, and SF3.

    Scola, Battier, and Wells should be close to demanding some PT too. However I don't know how the minutes will be split between Rafer/James. And I think the last spot will be for Hayes.

    Sorry Luther and Brooks.
     
  19. Angkor Wat

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    Adelman prefers the short rotation, just like JVG did. So you won't be seeing a 12 man rotation. I say the deepest we go is 10.

    Francis
    TMac
    Shane
    Scola
    Yao

    Skip
    James
    Bonzi
    Hayes
    Deke
    (Head)

    I like the Skip/James combo and it'll work best when our starters are not in the game. Let's Skip distribute while James is free to chuck shots. Head only gets playing whenenver they really need somebody to shoot the three. I expect either Skip,Head or Snyder to be traded with Head and Snyder leading the pack.
     
  20. Barkley

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    Agree. We have signed a lot of players but now you have to make a choice who will play...

    Adelman has to sit down and think about that whole night.
     

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