J.J. Redick the best shooter since Ray Allen and Reggie Miller

i agree... there are some negatives about the guy. but i think he is going to be better then a lot of people out there constantly hating on him think he will be.

 

The difference? Korver was taken in the second round with the 51st pick overall in the 2003 draft. You're just looking for someone who can stick on your roster at that point. JJ will probably be a late lottery mid first round pick. At that slot, you're hoping for more than just a "I'm on the roster, yay!" guy.

Now, I agree, he won't be too terrible. But I think the reason so many people are down on him is because of the fact that shooters with little else to their game don't usually go that high. Ray Allen and Ben Gordon can do much more than just shoot, which is why they got picked so much higher than Korver...

 

Nice argument for Steve Novak in the second round. But we can do better for both picks.

 

I had to say that "I'm on the roster, yay!" made me pull one of these:

 

Maurice Ager from Michigan or Richard Roby of Colorado look like a more intriguing players in my mind than Redick. Ager and Redick are the same size but Ager has range and can really drive to the rim -- and he is a better defender. Roby is taller and may well be available at #32. The Rocks would have to give up too much (and we don't have too much to give up) to keep our #8 and acquire Redick.

 

If the guy we want is gone at #8, we should try to trade with NOK to get their picks (maybe our #8 and #32 for their #12 and #15) then we could Redick and Sheldon Williams, or some other 4. I'm not sold on Carney and some second rounder being better than those two anyway. If NOK would take it, I think you have to look at that trade.

 

Hopefully gansey will still be available when we pick at 32. We really need a both-ends difference maker with our #8... I too would not be unhappy to see Reddick on our team, but it is probably not going to happen.

But if a guy like Stockton can turn himself into a good player, I don't see any reason why someone like Reddick can't.

It's gonna be interesting, either way.

 

Allan Houston?

 

I can name some shooters as good as if not better than JJ since Ray Allen was selected:

Salim Soudemire
Kyle Korver
Flip Murray
Gilbert Arenas
Eddie House
Michael Redd
Wally Szcerbiak
Trajan Langdon
Mike Bibby
Dirk Nowitzki
Cuttino Mobley
Chauncey Billups
Tracy McGrady

remember that Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, & Steve Nash
were also in the same draft class as Ray Allen.


Can JJ shoot? Of course. However, don't let the Duke mystique fool you and check and see how well he shot when the games really counted in the NCAA tournament. He's no better than any of the players I've listed above. he's 6'4, unathletic, and create his own shot. he's not going to be this dead eye shooter at the next level unless he ends up on a team with a couple of really good offensive players who can open him up WIDE open jumpers. any team willing to waste a top 20 pick on him is flat out stupid.

 

EDIT:

CAN'T create his own shot....

 

i think the guy will prove you wrong. he may not be better then a lot of those players. but he is a better shooter then a lot of them. remember thats what he is good at. not defense and rebounding and handeling the ball... but shooting.

 

michael redd, dirk, and peja might have something to say about that.

 

I hate to say this , but dude, T-mac does NOT shoot as well as Redick. Our beloved Tracy is currently shooting 31% from the arc. Is he good? Yes, but inconsistent. Redick isn't either, but not THAT inconsistent. And I've seen his games. You can say this guy got zero defence, is unathletic, whatsoever. But he does create his shot. He dibbles a bit, fakes it, and then pulls a fade away lotsa times. THIS GUY DOES CREATE HIS OWN SHOT! He's not a simple take the ball and shoot guy.

 

As long as Rafer is on the team, Reddick is useless. Teams know Rafer's shot is suspect so they consistently sag off of him.

We need a PG with a decent 3% to keep the defenses honest, otherwise we're right back where we started..........

 

The current NBA emphasis on perimeter speed and athleticism has changed the game to the point where playing solid defense now is used to trigger faster transition tempos and easier points. In case you have not been watching, playoff transition is no longer about walking the ball up court and pounding it into the low post.

The NBA game has changed to the point where successful teams must play at multiple tempos. All balanced teams (Mavs, Spurs, Pistons, Heat, Clippers, & Cavs) play solid defense which triggers easier transition points, they have players who can post up even if they are not C's or PF's, and they have players who can get their own shots. Strike 3 on the one-dimensional Reddick.

And "yes", I have seen him play enough times to make the statement.

 

remember that tracy was injured all of last year, and yes tracy goes cold sometimes but he ALWAYS comes through in the clutch and that's why he's on the list. to be a CLUTCH shooter is just important as being what most would consider a pure shooter. because being a pure shooter who can't hit you the shot when you really need it is pretty much useless.

and i don't know where you think JJ can create his own shot. JJ was used like richard hamilton and reggie miller at duke. he was always coming off of screens and isolated against smaller players at duke. JJ will not be able to put the ball on the floor at the next level and create shots against the athletes that the nba runs out there, PERIOD.

he's not that great of a ball handler and lacks the natural skills and athleticism to run the point in the nba. that will force him to play the 2, and at 6'4 with a suspect handle (he has too high of a dribble on the crossover) and not much quickness he won't be able to get a shot by himself.

people forget that coach K is GREAT at highlighting a player's strengths and hiding their weaknesses. that's how they have been so successfull through the years. and it's also why you've seen a lot of duke players struggle in the nba. in the nba there is no room for weaknesses to hide, they get exploited very quickly and the more you have the quicker you are out of the league. and friends, JJ has A LOT of weaknesses. he won't be a star, and probably won't be a consistent starter. he's going to be a spot up shooter off the bench, that's all. you can pick a player like that up in the last 1st, early 2nd round. it is a waste to spend a lottery pick or even a top 20 pick on a one dimensional player.