Perhaps telling that to your own team, Willis, in an attempt to get them to play like they should if they are one of the top two teams in the nation would be much more useful than calling everyone "haters."
Nobody wants us in the national championship game Yeah, Miami's invincible, no one can beat them.....
If y'all are looking for a knee-jerk reaction from me, it's not happening. I do have to admit of being a little surprised because Brad Edwards, the BCS expert on ESPN, said that Miami would be #2 but I guess he is not perfect. Oh and mfclark, maybe McGahee is wondering how a team can be undefeated (and have the nation's longest winning streak) but be ranked #4 in 2 of the computer polls behind 1 loss teams like USC and Notre Dame. Yea, that sounds about right. I am still confident that if Miami wins out, they will be in the Tempe regardless of what OSU, Texas, or anyone else does. Besides, we have been down this road before in Miami not being ranked in the top 2 in the BCS in November in the last 2 years...one year it didn't work out, the other year it did. And for the record, I have no problem with OU being ranked #1, but I do have a problem with Ohio State being #2 in the BCS. And other than saying "Serenity Now", that is all I have to say.
Being undefeated doesn't mean you are better than the other undefeated teams, such as Oklahoma. It just means you haven't lost yet. Using the same argument that Miami (and many fans, not necessarily you) is using, Bowling Green should be #4 because they haven't lost yet - after all, it's unfair to put a team with losses ahead of a team without losses. If Miami didn't struggle vs. Rutgers, didn't struggle vs. Florida State, and perhaps played a stronger schedule, there would be no complaints and none of this would've happened. It's much better when you can let your performance on the field dictate where you should be ranked than have to graspe for excuses like McGahee has done. Plus, why he is concerning himself with the November 4, 2002 BCS is beyond me. All he needs to be worried about is November 9, 2002 vs. Tennessee and then, maybe he can think about the December 6, 2002 or December 13, 2002 BCS standings. Win and perform and you will be where you should be. The difference in today's computer polls between 4th and 3rd would have no effect on where Miami is ranked this week in the BCS; however, if Miami continues to play like they have, they will find themselves 3rd when it does matter.
Where did I ever say Oklahoma was better than Miami? Read my post again and you will see that I said that I had no problem with Oklahoma being ranked ahead of Miami. What I did say is that I have a problem with OSU being ahead of Miami in the BCS rankings. And you are really reaching dude, in using Bowling Green. I know you hate Miami but come on if FSU was undefeated and a team had a loss was ahead of them, I would be saying that is not right. It is called a major conference , mfclark, and I could stomach it a lot easier if Miami was at worse #3 in the computer polls than #4 behind one loss teams like USC and Notre Dame. So, let me get this straight...you knew that FSU, Florida, Tennessee were all going to be down this year? LOL...Miami had a tough schedule when looking back at the pre-season. It is not the players' fault that those 3 traditional powers are down. I guess they could have scheduled San Jose State, Cincinnati, and Kent State instead, mmmkay?? And you know something, mfclark? When you have won 30 games in a row, when you ARE the defending national champions, every team you play is going to try their damndest to play their best game of the season to knock you off. Florida State played their best game of the season against Miami, Rutgers did too. And yes, Miami did not play like they could against those teams, but guess what?? They still won like a championship team does. Besides if Miami can win impressively over teams like Tennessee, Pitt, and Virginia Tech and OU plays down to their competition like Miami did, it is very possible that Miami jumps back over OU in the AP Poll. Try telling the computers that have USC and Notre Dame ahead of Miami. Miami hasn't lost, those teams have...so, the lesson here is that you DON'T have to win to be "where you should be". However, I will agree that McGahee doesn't need to worry about the polls or BCS, at least not until the very last one. Oh no question, Miami has to step up their game or talk about them being in Tempe will be for naught. However, I think you will see Miami play one of the better games of the season this Saturday. And I'll say one last thing...something that I should have said in my other post and it be the only thing that I should have said : I could care less about the BCS rankings now; I just care about the one that is released after the games of December 7th. Period.
I was using Oklahoma as an example. And, it's not like Ohio State hasn't taken care of business themselves - they just spanked 1-loss Minnesota. Miami almost got beat by 1-win Rutgers. No, Bowling Green is not in a major conference, but by your logic, they should be ahead of all one-loss teams...showing that the logic is invalid, as we both know that they shouldn't be ranked ahead of all of those teams. If FSU was undefeated and behind a one-loss team, I'd be peeved. But I'd also be confident in knowing that FSU would be able to win out and move ahead of that team. The computer polls have ALWAYS had some discrepancies, and that is why they are averaged and the worst one discarded. What i find funny, however, is that many of the changes in the BCS were designed to help teams like Miami (specifically the quality points factor, which was solely implemented after Miami missed out in 2000), yet they can't take advantage of the changes. No, it's not the player's fault that each of those teams are down - but it IS their fault that they play down to the level of those squads. Heck, some of the senior members of Miami's squad have said it themselves! It is Miami's fault that they are playing Division I-AA teams like FAMU during the season, though. When you are a good team, a lesser team is ALWAYS going to try to knock you off, whether you are the defending champions and have won 30 in a row or not. Do you think that teams don't get up to play Oklahoma and Ohio State, with their undefeated records, tradition, and previous national titles? Teams certainly do get up to beat them...but can't; in fact, in many instances, they can't come close. And if they are a championship team, they will continue to win out. That doesn't mean that they are a better team right now than the two teams ahead of them, however. Struggling to win games is usually an indicator of future losses, not being able to overcome adversity. We'll see how Miami performs. Operative phrase: "if." There hasn't been much to suggest that any of that will happen, except for perhaps a convincing win over Tennessee. Oklahoma played down to their competition earlier in the year - such as versus Alabama - yet still came away with impressive victories. With key games still to come and Stoops at the helm, there's no reason why they should slack off now, especially after losing out last year in trying to defend their title! We'll see what happens. Tennessee is playing shorthanded, while Miami needs to make a statement. If they don't, then they almost have to hope that Ohio State or Oklahoma loses, because they'll find themselves stuck in third. And that was my original gripe with what McGahee said. That's all he should care about as well - and to get there, all Miami needs to do is worry about winning.
mfclark, I just don't understand why you are so biased against Miami? Oh, I forgot Miami has cost your Seminoles how many national championships?? 2 or is it 3 or more than that?? I am through arguing with someone who is biased like you. I do find it funny, though, that BrianKagy, a Ohio State fan, admitted this past weekend that if Miami played Ohio State, that Miami would win 23-7. Yup, he believes that his Buckeyes are one of the 2 best teams along with OU. Oh and Miami is playing Florida A&M because East Carolina backed out of a game...but nice try.
Well, gosh, if BrianKagy says he thinks that OSU would lose to Miami, then that certainly makes it true. I'm sure he thought that Pittsburgh would beat Virginia Tech too. This is not a dig at BrianKagy's football predicting skills (in fact, he's a top 5 college football mind on this board), but rather a slam at this kind of argument.
Um, read between the lines here, RM95. Is mfclark an Ohio State fan?? No, he is a Florida State fan. Is BrianKagy an Ohio State fan?? Yes, he is. So, you have one person who is not a fan singing the praises of said team (in Ohio State) while the actual fan, Kagy, has doubts that Ohio State can beat a team behind them in the BCS rankings. Maybe I'm an idiot in your eyes for doing this, but I think I'll take more stock in the actual Buckeye fan's opinion than someone who is not a Buckeye fan.
OSU, I think, deserves to be #2. But Mia would beat OSU in a head-to-head matchup. The rankings have nothing to do with hypothetical matchups. If so, then UT would have probably been top 3 despite their ass whipping to OU.
Dude, I thought we'd lose the last three games. We won the last three games. So, if an OSU fan said they'd beat Miami, you'd take more stock in that than a Texas fan who said they wouldn't?
I'm sorry but what do you mean by this?? I brought up Kagy because he is an OSU fan...mfclark is not. We are talking about one team in Ohio State here. Granted I am using the fact that I inferred from the non-Buckeye fan, mfclark, that he feels that Ohio State is a better team than Miami. So, I used an example in which an Ohio State fan disagrees with the non-Buckeye fan. Now ask yourself this question: who has seen more Ohio State games? Kagy or mfclark? I think the answer to that one is obvious...Kagy. Now, he has seen Ohio State play more than anyone else here,e xcept for 4Chuckie. If he thinks they would lose to Miami, I don't see why you think this is a less of an opinion than one of someone who has NOT seen OSU play as much as Kagy that would think the opposite. And as you said yourself, you think that Brian is "one of the top 5" college football minds here. Now, you didn't say that to butter him up now, did you?
