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‘The brand is so toxic’: Dems fear extinction in rural US

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  1. basso

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    https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...lection-2020-fc79679ef54d850c0245f96dac37456c

    SMETHPORT, Pa. (AP) — Some Democrats here in rural Pennsylvania are afraid to tell you they’re Democrats.

    The party’s brand is so toxic in the small towns 100 miles northeast of Pittsburgh that some liberals have removed bumper stickers and yard signs and refuse to acknowledge their party affiliation publicly. These Democrats are used to being outnumbered by the local Republican majority, but as their numbers continue to dwindle, the few that remain are feeling increasingly isolated and unwelcome in their own communities.

    “The hatred for Democrats is just unbelievable,” said Tim Holohan, an accountant based in rural McKean County who recently encouraged his daughter to get rid of a pro-Joe Biden bumper sticker. “I feel like we’re on the run.”

    The climate across rural Pennsylvania is symptomatic of a larger political problem threatening the Democratic Party ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. Beyond losing votes in virtually every election since 2008, Democrats have been effectively ostracized from many parts of rural America, leaving party leaders with few options to reverse a cultural trend that is redefining the nation’s political landscape.

    The shifting climate helped Republicans limit Democratic gains in 2020 — the GOP actually gained House seats despite former President Donald Trump’s loss — and a year later, surging Republican rural support enabled Republicans to claim the Virginia governorship. A small but vocal group of party officials now fears the same trends will undermine Democratic candidates in Ohio, Wisconsin, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, states that will help decide the Senate majority in November, and the White House two years after that.

    Meanwhile, the Democratic Party continues to devote the vast majority of its energy, messaging and resources to voters in more populated urban and suburban areas.

    In Pennsylvania, Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, a leading candidate in the state’s high-stakes Senate contest, insists his party can no longer afford to ignore rural voters. The former small-town mayor drove his black Dodge Ram pickup truck across five rural counties last weekend to face voters who almost never see statewide Democratic candidates.

    Fetterman, wearing his signature hooded sweatshirt and gym shorts despite the freezing temperatures, described himself as a champion for “the forgotten, the marginalized and the left-behind places” as he addressed roughly 100 people inside a bingo hall in McKean County, a place Trump carried with 72% of the vote in 2020.

    “These are the kind of places that matter just as much as any other place,” Fetterman said as the crowd cheered.

    The Democratic Party’s struggle in rural America has been building for years. And it’s getting worse.

    Barack Obama won 875 counties nationwide in his overwhelming 2008 victory. Twelve years later, Biden won only 527. The vast majority of those losses — 260 of the 348 counties — took place in rural counties, according to data compiled by The Associated Press.

    The worst losses were concentrated in the Midwest: 21 rural counties in Michigan flipped from Obama in 2008 to Trump in 2020; Democrats lost 28 rural counties in Minnesota, 32 in Wisconsin and a whopping 45 in Iowa. At the same time, recent Republican voter registration gains in swing states like Florida and North Carolina were fueled disproportionately by rural voters.

    Biden overcame rural losses to beat Trump in 2020 because of gains in more populous Democratic counties. Perhaps because of his victory, some Democratic officials worry that party leaders do not appreciate the severity of the threat.

    Democratic Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee, who recently announced he would not seek reelection to Congress this fall, warns that the party is facing extinction in small-town America.

    “It’s hard to sink lower than we are right now. You’re almost automatically a pariah in rural areas if you have a D after your name,” Cooper told The Associated Press.

    Even if Democrats continue to eke out victories by piling up urban and suburban votes, former Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota fears her party will have “unstable majorities” if they cannot stop the bleeding in rural areas.

    “Democrats have the House, they have the Senate, the presidency, but it’s an unstable majority. By that, I mean, the narrowest kind, making it difficult to advance ideas and build coalitions,” said Heitkamp, who now heads the One Country Project, which is focused on engaging rural voters.

    She criticized her party’s go-to strategy for reaching rural voters: focusing on farmers and vowing to improve high-speed internet. At the same time, she said Democrats are hurting themselves by not speaking out more forcefully against far-left positions that alienate rural voters, such as the push to “defund the police.”

    While only a handful of Democrats in Congress support stripping such money from police departments, for example, conservative media popular in rural communities — particularly Fox News — amplifies such positions.

    “We’re letting Republicans use the language of the far left to define the Democratic Party, and we can’t do that,” Heitkamp said. “The trend lines in rural America are very, very bad. ... Now, the brand is so toxic that people who are Democrats, the ones left, aren’t fighting for the party.”

    To help win back rural voters, the Democratic National Committee has tapped Kylie Oversen, a former North Dakota state legislator, to work with rural organizers and state party rural caucuses as the chair of the national committee’s rural council. The DNC also says it’s sharing resources with people on the ground in rural areas to help improve training, recruiting and organizing.

    So far, at least, those resources are not making life any easier for Democrats in northwestern Pennsylvania.

    At one of Fetterman’s weekend stops in rural Clarion, a group of voters said they’ve been effectively ostracized by their community — and even family members, in some cases — for being Democrats. One woman brings her political signs inside at night so they aren’t vandalized or stolen.

    “You have to be careful around here,” said Barbara Speer, 68, a retired sixth grade teacher.

    Nearby, Michelle’s Cafe on Clarion’s main street is one of the few gathering points for local Democrats. A sign on the door proclaims support for Black Lives Matter, LGBTQ rights and other progressive priorities.

    But the cafe owner, 33-year-old Kaitlyn Nevel, isn’t comfortable sharing her political affiliation when asked.

    “I would rather not say, just because it’s a small town,” she said.

    One patron, 22-year-old college student Eugenia Barboza, said the cafe is one of the few places in town she feels safe as a Latina immigrant. Just down the road, she said, a caravan of Trump supporters met up to drive to the deadly protests in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021.

    Barboza said she’s grateful that Democrats like Fetterman are willing to come to rural areas, but she isn’t hopeful that it’ll change much.

    “It would take a lot more than just him,” she said. “It would take years and years and years.”
     
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  2. DonnyMost

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    I wish I could get paid to write stories about obvious phenomenon that is universally known and well understood.

    Also, lmao, this thread got made literally 1 minute after the article was published.

    Basso bot status confirmed.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    just send AOC into these areas to win over the hearts and minds of the natives
     
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    not just toxic, but intoxicated.

     
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    This is sort of like how Republicans are getting pasted in cities. And many Republicans are afraid to reveal their political leanings in urban areas.

    I've said before that it isn't good that we have a largely rural party and a largely urban party. I know in MN there are still some rural Democrats and the governor Tim Walz comes from a rural area. Senators Klobuchar and Smith have also tried to address rural issues. The biggest impediment though is cultural issues and it seems like those have fueled the urban rural split.
     
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    This is also why I've felt for a long time that the key for either party is who can win the suburbs.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    I thought those were Republican Strong Holds

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  8. Rileydog

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    Well, rural America relative to urban America is less educated and less literate. Far easier for Republicans and Fox News to deceive and suck in..
     
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    Indeed, and the suburbs reflect the mix - in some sense, you can somewhat gauge what kind of voter a suburbanite is by where they go to have fun on the weekend. If they head into the city, they’re probably liberals and if they head out to the country, they’re probably conservatives.

    I’ll also add that every time an article like this is written, Heidi Heitkamp is inevitably quoted and inevitably she blames progressives for alienating rural voters rather than the actual issues. Those issues are (1) a total failure by moderates to challenge and repel conservative boogeymen (whether it be defund the police or CRT) and (2) the failure by moderates to articulate actual positions. Together, this allows conservatives opponents to define the moderates on conservative terms, and as would be expected, that doesn’t make moderates look good.

    Furthermore, it’s quite obvious that in response to their declining importance and fortunes, rural voters are largely turning to xenophobia to cope. Republicans have seized upon this which has given them cover from the fact that it was almost entirely conservative politics that devastated smaller towns (particularly those that were manufacturing towns). Meanwhile, Democrats have refused to pander to xenophobia (and how could they?) which means these voters believe the Democrats don’t listen to them.

    Democrats have to do a better job of communicating how their policies will help rural Americans as well as urban Americans. But as the (more) honest of the two parties, they don’t have the luxury of peddling bullshit the way the GOP does (nor do they have networks devoted to pushing Democratic propaganda), so it’s a tough hurdle.
     
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    Good post. The issue with rural is the world has passed them by. Coal, steel, manufacturing, all going or pretty much gone. Farming has become corporate dominated. So you have a lot of people scraping by in these dying towns. They don’t have the ambition to get out, become educated, and make their fortune. The Dems can’t offer anything because there is nothing to offer. The local mill or plant job isn’t coming back. We could at least get them single payer healthcare or high speed internet but they consider themselves bootstrapping red blooded Americans and don’t need no handouts damn it!

    The Republicans offer them the same they always have: fear. Crime, immigrants, socialism, opioids, abortions, the decay of society due to defund the police and war on religion. So they push that and they win. Notice they never offer any ideas to improve their lives. Just we will fight against these boogeymen.

    Dems need to focus on the suburbs and forget the rural areas.
     
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    You hit with the cultural stuff
    I hate how this crap is getting into our entertainment and video games
    Give me no politics and wokeness in my super hero movies
     
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    I never put political signs in my yard at my san Leon house because the trailer park poors are dangerous. Because they’ve failed at life they took pride in fighting for the fat orange man born with the silver spoon.
     
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    Rural America faces extinction in rural America
     
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    in 2008 I got harassed constantly for wearing a McCain/Palin hat around the UWS.
     
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    Not if you talk like this....

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  16. Rocket River

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    Well d*mn!

    Democrats need more of that . . . . .
    BETO!!! YOU'RE UP!!!


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  17. Xerobull

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    'Democrat' is a toxic brand?

    If you asked me which party (or any party) I would think of when you say the word toxic, it's the GOP.

    tox·ic
    /ˈtäksik/

    adjective
    1. 1.
      poisonous.
      "the dumping of toxic waste"
    2. 2.
      very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way.
      "a toxic relationship"
     

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