Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

I did no such thing actually but thanks for playing.

How in the **** do you address the de facto exclusion of a racial community in American justice by not addressing that racial community? I've already said what conservatives in America believe of any movement. You have a problem with ANY movement to address justice and equality in the black community. And I quote.

 

What caused the change in culture during the 60's? I mean....pretty much every culture changed during that time, blaming it on the war on drugs is....well, short sighted especially given that you don't seem to realize that the numbers dropped among whites as well, it just didn't drop as much....also it's funny that people always assume that every group offends at the same rate when they bring up arrest statistics, assumptions are fun.

 

Do my eyes deceive me or does he not say in the first line that you quote (we already suspect you are not that great at quoting) that the gap has not always existed/

 

Well it HAS always existed so far as we know, but at one time it was really small and now it has grown pretty huge.

 

Yes but 50 years ago the gaps between white and black families was just a few percentages points whereas now it is a few tens of percentage points.

CW seems to not recognize that the gap has become a gulf for black families where it has only tweaked up for white families.

 

I think you miss the entire point of BLM.

 

You remind me of a 13 YO who wants to describe any mistake as a lie. I guess I mistook what you read. For that I am sorry.

Nevertheless you are tramping over the meaning of quasi as a qualifier.

What racial injustice was perpetrated on Michael Brown? What were the legal findings. Did you help wipe the egg off the face of all those race-baiters right up into the Justice Department and the White House?

 

And in a majority of the poor crime filled areas _ that's what you'll see.

You grew up with poor black folks but you keep talking this culture shyt when it just could be that most women have a hard time raising kids on their own.

I respectfully disagree with you on this statement... Integration, LBJ's war on poverty, and the feminist movement (whether good or bad) has more to do with that than the war on drugs.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. If there was this mass black culture you have next to 0 knowledge of it. When asked about it multiple times you give nothing but vague answers because you don't actually know. You are just interested in lecturing the black population and bragging about how superior "White culture" is.

Actually what is short sighted is to just blame culture. Otherwise you will have to explain why black marriage rates were fine in the 50s but black people were still not able to benefit from it.

As for the war on drugs. The numbers dropped for whites. Actually, I was the one in this thread that was saying that at first. Except the numbers dropped like an anchor for the black population. To imply that the numbers should be equal is to imply that the war on drugs had an equal affect on the white population. It hasn't. There is a whole Wiki page about it...seriously...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_the_War_on_Drugs

But the simple fact is that whites use drugs at the same rate as blacks but don't get arrested at the same rate.

As for anyone that brings up discussion on cultures, white culture is lagging far behind Asian culture. I want some of you to admit this, I know none of the black culture people will. Because a lot of the "Black Culture" discussion is not actually a discussion. It's just a "Let me lecture you about your race and why mines is better."

You see it's not actually a discussion if you have 0 knowledge of the "Culture" you are discussing.

We can't discuss Godfather if I've seen the movie and you haven't. We can't discuss Jazz music if I listen to it and you haven't.

 

I'm just clowning you all over the place today. Is Bobby your son? You both have this incredible ability to post obtuse, ignorant nonsense. It's a real talent.




Economics professor Walter E. Williams writes: "According to the 1938 Encyclopaedia of the Social Sciences, that year 11 percent of black children and 3 percent of white children were born to unwed mothers." In mid-1960s America, the nation's out-of-wedlock birth rate (which stood at 7.7 percent at the time) began a rapid and relentless climb across all demographic lines, a climb that would continue unabated until 1994, when the Welfare Reform Act helped put the brakes on that trend. Today the overall American illegitimacy rate is about 40.7 percent (29.1 percent for non-Hispanic whites). For blacks, it is about 72 percent—approximately three times the level of black illegitimacy that existed when the War on Poverty began in 1964.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1261


In 1938, blacks had three times the rate of single parent households as whites. Today, the rate for blacks is almost three times the rates of whites. That is a gap that has always existed. Always. Existed.

Explain why, thanks.

 

So the war on drugs had absolutely nothing to do with it as there has been no change. jaygoogle has gone off his rocker.

 

And we are always going to disagree here because my political views on things just differ from yours I think. Which is fine.

Actually, we are arguing different things lol.

CW is saying the gap between single parent marriage between whites and blacks has always existed.

I'm arguing about the DECLINE and not the gap. Nice try though.

 

Perhaps or perhaps it just replaced other factors that were diminished with the lead up to the war on drugs.

 

That's not how math works.

For example...

If something changes from 1% to 2%, that is a 100% change. If something goes from 25% to 50%, that is also a 100% change... but those numbers are not even close to the same.


So if 99% of children were born to married parents, and that number falls to 98%, you can say "the number of children born out of wedlock DOUBLED!" But that is a tiny number in totality.

But if 75% of children were born to married parents and that number falls to 50%, you can say "the number of children born out of wedlock DOUBLED!" But the number in totality is gigantic compared to a decrease from 99% to 98%.

 

The use of the term "Black Culture" is ignorant... Especially when Hollywood has been glorifying pimps and gangsters like the Godfather movies, Scarface, and all the pimp movies that were made in the 70's.

Unless they believe black folks control the entertainment industry The entertainment industry will put out whatever white folks (and women) will spend money on.

Ths founders of that movement are radical feminist if anything...

I'm not going by a political view _ I'm going by a historical view and there was a group of black women who were clowning black men and were at the forefront of the feminist movement (thanks to Gloria Steinman and her puppet masters) in this country during the 60's-80's... That's how Oprah went mainstream by bashing black men. Black women were written books and getting on TV bashing black men every chance they got.

Pointing at the drug war is just deflecting blame. Illegitimacy and the divorce rate is creeping up in the white community... I wonder if they will blame it on the drug war also...???

 

Sorry, you said the decline was due to war on drugs. The link showed the decline paced exactly with society and is exactly what would be expected.

 

Clowning is a good word for what you do. You've not acknowledged what "quasi" means and you've not acknowledged that the BLM movement cares for nothing at all except black lives, whereas ALM is encompassing.

Again, how is BLM not racist? Oh and what great injustice befell Michael Brown? There was also a lot of "clowning" about that and it probably ran into the millions of dollars of damage suffered by innocent persons... just like those cops recently executed.

 

No, no they would not because they were not affected equally by the drug war.

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/soci...0-war-on-drugs-black-social-mobility-rothwell

There are TONS of books and information out there on this and most of them make pretty strong cases against it.

 

Brah, you are not even in here about debating anything. You are just trying to win internet points as you admitted before. Go play a game or something if you want to win points.

The problem here is my initial argument, which is what I quoted...

Was that the marriage rates had fallen IN AMERICA. I said the war on drugs put more white people in jail too.

But again, the point is the numbers dropped for blacks and were once fine and acceptable numbers. They are now not.

 

So you just instantly abandon a point you were pressing on before when proven wrong without admitting error or acknowledging in any way except insult the person who called you out on it. I'm sure you would really like someone who calls out your BS to leave. Would make it easier for your style of 'batin.

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