Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

What does academics or "family cohesiveness" have to do with the US' embarrassing failure of a prison system and its ongoing trainwreck?

We should have a giant wasteful system but it's ok as long as people stay in school and stay married?

The answer is that it has zero to do with it.

We should not have a giant expensive waste of a prison-industrial complex system on its own negative merits, irrespective of any of your (no doubt, valuable! ) thoughts on tangential matters.

 

Having a strong father figure is far from tangential. I do agree that the prison complex needs a solution. There isn't one though, unless you can line their pockets in some other way.

Edit: Or Revolt

 

There are a number of problems with our prison system. Some of them have to do with state level legislation defining crime, some with crime defined at the national level, and some to do with the operation of the prisons themselves. All three factor into the high rate of incarceration. None of that changes the fact that it is very easy to avoid incarceration at all, let alone imprisonment. The number of people falsely convicted of crimes is a very tiny, statistically insignificant, portion of the number of people in prison. There are steps that should be taken, some more important in my opinion than others (I think getting rid of victimless crimes should take priority over prison reform for example), but none of that changes the fact that avoiding imprisonment is going to come down to not committing crimes 99.99% of the time.

 

The choice whether or not to have an expensive system of mass incarceration for minor crimes can be changed at us at any time with zero input on father figures.

There is definitely a solution - send fewer people to prison. These solutions have been discussed at length in the public arena for many years.

 

I get his point. It was clear. The incarceration rate is significantly higher in the U.S. than in other countries, and that should be looked in to. I'm not really disagreeing; I stated it was a factor.

Do little to help anybody? If we are going to go this route, 80% of what every politician says is cliched.

Going back to this specific essay, which is what I was focusing on.

If he talks about the failure of the prison system, it may be interpreted in a different light than you may think. Would you be able to see how linking BLM to prison reform may backfire? Even if he may want to discuss it, it is probably wise to discuss in a different context. Would you agree?

 

You seem to ignore the fact that the people in prison broke the law to get there. They did not have to break the law.

Are you in prison, if not why hasn't our scary prison system gotten you yet?

Using your logic, we could solve world hunger. We just need people to stop being hungry.

 

If we get rid of all the laws, we won't have a problem with the prison system, everyone wins amirite?

 

Yeah so, I'm not ignoring that fact, nor are the legions of people from the otherwise dipsh-t Koch brothers and Rand Paul all the way out to Bernie Sanders who are able to discuss prison reform on at least a semi- intellectual level.

I guess you are not in this group. Sad face.

I mean, using your logic, hamster cheese sandwich drywall !

 

You are the quintessential ditto head. You have no original thought, input or content to contribute.

 

Did you even take the time to read what he said... It's so much money for this country from the prison system, he's probably smart enough to know the powers that be aren't going to let it stop and many citizens in the country don't want it to stop because it's a job provider. They've been talking about it for decades and it's still going on. Dr Carson is giving ways to avoid that shyt.


Let’s head down to the board of education.Teaching*is a tough job and thank God there was a teacher who convinced me that I was not dumb, but our*schools are failing*and we have no power to abandon them. The actions of rogue police officers take black lives one at a time. Our public school system has destroyed black lives not in the ones and twos, but in whole generations.

The schools*don’t teach*and our children don’t learn. Too*many public schools are controlled by*teachers unions*focused more on the convenience and compensation of*adults rather than the education of children who*started out far behind. Their failures don't kill*as quickly, but they do kill*as surely as a bullet.

We should go to Washington.*For decades they have fought the "War on Poverty." Poverty won. We lost.

Over 19 trillion dollars*has been wasted, but can anyone identify a single battle won as a result? We certainly have not helped the poor “lift themselves out*of the ruts of poverty” as Lyndon Johnson promised — far from it.*These programs have been a great American failure.

You can't be taking seriously if you think mass incarceration is black folks biggest problem in this country. That's a talking point for people who aren't paying attention.

 

It's completely empty. What is he proposing? I hear teacher union. That's might be part of the problem, but hardly the problem with education. Entertainment? He want to suppress free speech? He think that's part of the real source of hopelessness? Tear down the crack house - he meant the war on drugs? Been a dismal failure. So double down on failure? War on poverty? So he want to remove all funding for the poor? I don't even know why he think it's a great failure. Have he compared the poverty rate over the last 80 or so years? "We want honor and dignity" - so let's not be clothed, fed, housed and now they have honor and dignity? I agree with one statement - the Republican Party ignored them too long. And his policy seems to be the same same that ignored them too long. Actually, it's more accurate to said, his policy is empty. Have no idea what he stand for from that piece. And that's hardly qualify as an oped piece.

 

Question... Are you black and how much time have you ever spent amongst poor black folks in bad communities...?

 

I can chime in. I'm not black, but I grew up in a neighborhood that was a white neighborhood in New Orleans in the '80's before I was born where a lot of workers in the oil industry lived. There was an oil bust, and a lot of oil workers were laid off, and they had to leave their houses.

Before long, black people from the projects were moving into the neighborhood at a rapid rate. By the time I was born, that neighborhood was about half black and half white.

As I grew up, the neighborhood became more black. It went from a middle class white neighborhood in the 80's to a mostly black crime-ridden neighborhood by the mid-90's.

Even back then, I noticed the stark differences between black and white families. A lot of the black families had no dad. It would be a mom, maybe an aunt, maybe a grandma, kids, cousins, etc. It was rare that a black kid had a "traditional family" with a mom, dad, and kids. Black homes let their grass grow wild and their houses turned to crap.

When I was a kid, my mom would sometimes sit outside to keep an eye on me. When the black kids saw she was outside, they'd all run over to her. The little black girls would want to braid her hair. The black boys would like when my dad was outside and liked interacting with him.

It dawns on me now that they didn't get attention at home from their own parents, and many didn't have a dad at home.

There is a lot more from my experience... but the main problems are family life and culture in my opinion.

 

White families set rules and were more disciplined. They kept up their houses. Little things like cutting the grass shows responsibility and that you care. Like I said, many of the black homes let the grass run wild. And if they did cut it eventually, they didn't edge up the yard. The concrete walk way to their door would disappear because the grass would just grow over it. They didn't care.

I had rules to follow and so did other white kids. We had to be home at a certain time. We weren't allowed to go past certain streets on our bike. The black kids had no rules. They had no discipline because the people who took care of them weren't very responsible themselves. They themselves had no discipline.

When I was about 7, I remember one of my black friends talking about p***y, weed, and hoes. That was interesting. He gave me a bootleg tape of the Partners-N-Crime album "PNC3". Those are just normal topics and everyday music in black culture.

And this isn't to say there weren't crappy white families with crappy culture - there were. But I'm talking in generalities here.

 

There may be a need for prison reform... but I strongly believe the problems in the black community are problems of culture and family life.

It doesn't matter how poor your school is. If you have a family structure that pushes you to learn, you will learn.

I went to a poor Catholic school. It doesn't take fancy buildings and brand new text books to teach kids. There needs to be discipline and responsibility. And I'm talking about the adults. Kids are just kids, and values need to be instilled in them. And that is one problem that many poor black areas have. They lack discipline and responsibility. And they lack it big time.

 

I think that is why so many Asian kids do well in school and in life. They have parents that take discipline and responsibility very seriously.

Some might even say they are TOO hard on their kids.

But, their kids do end up smart, educated, and wealthy.

I'm not positive, but I think Asians earn more money on average than White people.

 

Bmd such a good GRAM poster....why are you doing this

 

On average Asians do make more then any race in America.

 

Doing what? Speaking truth?

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