Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

But Black sounding names are part of the American culture. For some reason you keep trying to paint them as some sort of stand apart thing.

Your assertions are ludicrous. It has nothing to do with thinking outside of pre-conceived notions. It's ironic that the one saying this is the one who can't get around the notion that a name that he isn't used can't be part of the American culture.

 

Jamal is an arab name, the reason black people would use it is either because they are Muslims or because they were just convinced that it was a "black" name.

DeAndre is nothing but a bastardization of "Andre"

 

Or it's someone "thinking outside the box" regarding names. LOL

 

It's someone thinking that they should make their name more "black sounding" because apparently that's important to them. It's an unhealthy obsession with race, but well, that's why we have the problems we do.

 

That's why we have the problems we do? The discrimination that exists with job hiring, the justice system etc. are all because some people think it's important for their children to have "black" sounding names? That's the reason for the bigotry in today's society?

LOL. I no longer believe you are actually serious in this discussion. You've got to be just playing around.

I would be more inclined to think it's the mindset that keeps people from accepting "black sounding" names are actually now part of the American culture.

 

The mindset of people who think they have to invent names just to separate themselves from everyone else in a culture shows a pretty unhealthy obsession with race, especially among those who are black.....which is a huge part of the problem.

You work to separate yourself from the culture as a whole and sometimes you are successful....congratulations, but unfortunately sometimes that means you'll be treated differently from the culture as a whole as well.

Anyway we've talked enough about this, and talking isn't going to change anything. Also, it doesn't affect me because I don't have that unhealthy obsession.

 

Also, the whining about slavery is so played out, yet it seems like every time people try to have a conversation about race in America it gets brought up. No one cares that your great great great great great great grandfather might have been a slave.....it means absolutely nothing at all today.

 

What's your point?

Anyone who sees a resume with the name "Jamal Crawford" knows the dude is black and at the very least a minority.

Fact is that you want black people to hide their race on their resume by changing their name vs. ending racism in the first place is just crazy.

You clearly don't like black people. Which is fine. just admit it to yourself and move on. I can't argue with you any more. There's no point. You're a closet racist.

 

LOL "hide their race" until about 40 or 50 years ago black people didn't feel the need to have "black people names", it's pretty sad actually.

Anyway, I know that this is yet another conversation that goes over your head, so it probably is time to just call it a night. At least you probably tried.

 

The mindset of people who think others that are part of or have a desire of being part of the non-mainstream culture would shows a pretty unhealthy obsession with race, shows a lack of understanding toward multiple cultures and race, a lack of acceptance of multiple cultures and race, a lack of tolerance for different cultures and race and an probably an unhealthy obsession with one's own race as the only race in town.

 

You are either being intentionally obtuse or unintentionally obtuse.

 

Giddy logic! :grin:

 

Just the same "DeAndre" is considered of "Native American orgin"... Unlike Robert which is of German/European orgin. Most names you refer to as "American" are European names and or names from the Hebrew language and are not American names... Just because Americans use names like Robert, David, etc. doesn't make them American names.

So there are some Americans who use the name Jamal, and there are Americans like yourself who are named after European royalty (If Robert is your actual name). Also, all Arabs aren't Muslims... That's like saying all hispanics are Mexicans.

 

Africans were stripped of their names and were not allowed to be themselves (their culture was violently repressed), all in the name of economic gain for a few.

Now some their descendants, who have never known the culture of their ancestors (except in isolated situations) and don't know their original "family" name, are mocked when they attempt to re-establish their own culture identity independent from the mainstream america they were never meant to be a part of :rollseyes:

 

Who are you to decide what black people should and shouldn't do?

 

Don't get it twisted, I don't really care. If they like the path they've chosen to go down, then by all means I suggest they keep it up.....just don't expect change when you are actively fighting it by continuing the ideology of racist groups from the 60's and 70's that urged black people to create "black names" to help separate themselves from the culture of America. I'm sure that kind of ignorant divisiveness is just the thing everyone needs to achieve the goal of a color blind society.



Anyway, remember that I'm part of the #NoLivesMatter movement, so I really don't care how things turn out for anyone.

 

Slavery in and of itself may not mean that much today, but the additional hundred years of oppression afterwards combined with the slavery absolutely means something today.

 

You are the one who's refusing to accept that those names are now part of the culture of America. I'm not sure why you are so against accepting that as part of American culture.

A large part of what is considered American culture comes from black people in the United States, their ancestors from Africa, slavery, and oppression. That is true of the music, dance, fashion, and many other parts of what is today and has been for nearly a century the culture of America.

The fact that you can't accept names like DeAndre as part of the American culture is telling.

 

Honest question: When where black people ever a part of the culture of america, except in a subservient role or when they were being mocked for their perceived "backwardness" and "uncivilized" behavior?