Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Just to add for the record I don't think race based AA is that good anymore. I like the UT idea of admitting the top 5% as that addresses class and race better. That said to it's incredibly naive and utopian to believe that racism had been done away with in the 1960's.

 

The study didn't use those kinds of names. I hardly think Lakisha is equivalent to "Moon Unit" or "Peekaboo". I mean, this is a weak excuse. "Oh, it's not about race, it's just that we don't hire people with goofy-ass names like Lakisha Jackson"

 

And do you think government officials write laws to benefit the citizens _ or to benefit the corporations (and or other big spenders) that fund their campaigns...?

Do you think BLM is a racist group...?

 

That's exactly my point...but I'm not even talking about all names that are thought of as "black names" just those that are weird.

Either way though, it doesn't matter, if there is evidence that giving your child certain names would potentially be a hurdle for them in life.....why would anyone give their kids those names? We're not talking about names that sound odd to Americans because they are from a different culture, we are only talking about Americans in this. If you are an American and you give your kid a name that sounds goofy to other Americans, you are being a bad parent unless there is a legitimate reason for giving them that name.

 

This is of course wrong, as a simple Google search would have revealed.

Dozens of black code laws were still on the books as of 2006, listed in a paper from SSRN.

I only bothered to check one of them, but the Mississippi code still provides for Negro 4H club facilities, because of course it does

http://law.justia.com/codes/mississippi/2013/title-37/chapter-113/in-general/section-37-113-31

In fact Alabama only repealed its anti miscegenation laws in 2000, with 40 percent of its voters apparently opposed. White racists are stubborn, no?

So I'm sad to say that even this pitiful Pyrrhic victory is denied to you, which is generally what happens when one exports stormfront.org forums logic for non white racist consumption.

Far more important however than the failure of this parenthetical attack is the modern day Jim Crow that white racists lIke yourself seek to promote and obfuscate by diversionary arguments like this one: "Yeah slavery was bad but black guy got a better degree than me! Unfair!".

That's a sideshow and ridiculous on its own merit (teehee!). Meanwhile the modern day Jim Crow runs rampant in the form of voter suppression, prisoner disenfranchisement, and other means, all in order to protect the status quo which is undeniably tainted by centuries of institutional racism.

 

Who said that it was. You are arguing against a straw man. Nobody in this thread has said that racism ended in the 1960s.

Apparently I correctly interpreted what Bobby was saying, as his subsequent post indicated.

I don't think government officials write much at all. Most legislation is drafted by interest groups and then adopted wholesale by legislators.

Yes. We covered this on page 1.

Of course you are aware that although specific state laws may not have been explicitly repealed, they have been rendered ineffective through legislation, constitutional amendment and judicial review. The average person may be confused by such, but aren't you a lawyer. Do they not teach you this stuff in Texas?

I'm sorry, the Jim Crow of literally treating everyone the same under the law. Is that the modern day Jim Crow to which you are referring? Maybe you didn't cover Jim Crow laws in history, but they tended not to be so much about the government treating everyone the same regardless of skin color.

Are you projecting or something? I am perfectly satisfied with my education, thank you very much. I was not on the bubble and hoping a black person with slightly lower scores wasn't applying for my spot. I went to school on a full academic scholarship. Nice try though. Moral conscience must be a cover for insecurity in your circles. It must be weird for you to converse with someone that really believes in things like equal protection.

Yeah. Meritocracy. Outrageous. Judging people not by what they look like but by what they do. What horrible racism.

Maybe you can try again with Jim Crow laws, but this time find ones that are actually in force, not some relic hanging around on the books like a vestigial appendage. New Oreleans City Code still bans cursing at firefighters, too.

Show me a law that says black people have different voting rights, rights as prisoners, etc. than white people and I will show you a law that is not going to stand up to scrutiny by the courts.

 

Your explanation for this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Is that African-Americans disproportionately name their children "goofy" names.

I don't think it's worth pursuing, but even if you're wrong you're right lol.

Either your anecdotal information is bulls**t.

Or we live in a systematic, racist society that hires based on the notion "goofy names", most of which are concentrated in African-American names. Of course, a "goofy" name has absolutely nothing to do with skills, qualification, or career path. It has nothing to do with race, but just based on my "sense of the world", African-Americans tend to name their children goofy ways.

Take your pick.

 

for those who base their notions of the world on more than utter anecdotal bulls**t, these are the names most commonly flagged/screened as belonging to "white" or "black" groups.

The resumes with the white-sounding names were actually downloaded 17 percent more often by job recruiters than the resumes with black-sounding names.

20 "Whitest" Girl Names

Molly
Amy
Claire
Emily
Katie
Madeline
Katelyn
Emma
Abigail
Carly
Jenna
Heather
Katherine
Caitlin
Kaitlin
Holly
Allison
Kaitlyn
Hannah
Kathryn

20 "Blackest" Girl Names

Imani
Ebony
Shanice
Aaliyah
Precious
Nia
Deja
Diamond
Asia
Aliyah
Jada
Tierra
Tiara
Kiara
Jazmine
Jasmin
Jazmin
Jasmine
Alexus
Raven

20 "Whitest" Boy Names

Jake
Connor
Tanner
Wyatt
Cody
Dustin
Luke
Jack
Scott
Logan
Cole
Lucas
Bradley
Jacob
Garrett
Dylan
Maxwell
Hunter
Brett
Colin

20 "Blackest" Boy Names

DeShawn
DeAndre
Marquis
Darnell
Terrell
Malik
Trevon
Tyrone
Willie
Dominique
Demetrius
Reginald
Jamal
Maurice
Jalen
Darius
Xavier
Terrance
Andre
Darryl

Now that we have an actual list used in the studies, I want to hear why "Maurice" is more goofy than "Wyatt". lol

 

No, they aren't according to your logic. You can raise the speed limit all you like, it's the person driving that makes the difference. Abortions would happen regardless of PP just like you mention preganancies would happen without them as well.

You can't sincerely believe that people whose faith objects to contraception would support contraception?

You might be an exception but that makes you just that: an exception.

You can talk the talk about your utopian vision of a Republican congress expanding access to contraception and preventative health care but the truth is PP shoulders that burden in the present.

Like the choices of bankers who choose to aim subprime mortgage loans at black neighbourhoods ("ghetto loans" for "mud people") and police systems that torture and disappear an overwhelming amount of blacks (see: Chicago and now Homan Square)?

 

Yeah, black kids with the names Cassius, Mahalia, Condolezza and Barack are destined to fail.

This is literally the most stupid assertion ever but considering the source it's consistent with the mindset.

 

U talking about Muhammed, Halie, Condi and Barry?

Muhammed is the most commonly used name on Earth. Read a ****ing book for once.

 

Cassius Clay won the heavyweight championship BEFORE he changed his name and how do your dumbazz shortened names matter when the these people achieved prominence with their ENTIRE "goofy name"?

Keep clapping cymbals monkey.

 

What are you talking about? So you are saying blacks should name their kids with white names so their resume gets picked up more? Are you serious? The people getting discriminated against didn't have goofy names, it was because the potential employer could tell they were black from their name. You are creating a whole insane false issue to justify racism. It's disturbing.

 

I will give you credit that you did not feel that racism ended in the 1960 and I apologize for mischaracterizing your position. That said from this post below:

It is apparent that you believe that legal racism doesn't exist anymore except where it hurts white (and Asian) people. Is that correct?

I and others have shown that while there may not be laws directly targeting black people there are still many institutions, such as legacy admissions, that greatly favor white people and that there are still advantages to being white that are hold overs from the long history of legalized racism.

 

I'm saying up until about 40 or 50 years ago there was no such thing as a "white name" or a "black name", there was just names. Then you had the rise of racist groups that were black and all of a sudden the names changed....

Funniest of all, there was a simpleton up above that doesn't realize that "Cassius" is a REALLY old name that isn't "black" or "white"...it's a super old name that has roots in Rome.

The idea of "black names" and "white names" is ridiculous to begin with.

 

Names are critical part of culture and self-identity. For example with names like Jose, Maria, Siobhan and Cian there probably is a good idea from what ethnic background those people come from. The first two are considered Latino while the latter are Celtic.

As race is an important part of self-identity and that most black Americans' original culture was destroyed and supplanted with the culture of the slave masters I don't see what is wrong with creating black sounding names.

 

And there's a problem if you see your "culture" being tied to your race. We're talking about Americans here, they should share an American culture....and they did, until about 40 or 50 years ago.

When you are talking about Celts, or Mexicans or whatever, you are talking about people from different cultures, not Americans. When you have 8th generation Americans trying to pick names from other cultures (or inventing names entirely so as to stand apart from their culture) simply because of their race.....well they are probably focused on the wrong thing wouldn't you agree?

If a Mexican has black skin, he'll have a similar name to a Mexican with light skin.

 

You mean the Christian names that were given to blacks when they were slaves so they can be obedient to their masters like a good Christian?

 

Actually they created much of American culture, from music, to dance, to fashion etc.

There is also a shared culture that is unique from other Americans because of the prejudice and hardship they have suffered, and continue to suffer. If they pick names that identifies them to that as a matter of pride, tradition, homage or whatever, I don't see how that should bother you or anybody else.

 

If they want to stand apart from their culture based on their race, it means that they care WAY too much about race as an identifier....and I'm going to judge them for it. If race means that much to you, odds are pretty good that you are a racist *******.

Again, a black Frenchman will have similar names as white Frenchmen...Black Italians will have similar names to white Italians.

Only in America do black people feel as if they have to invent names that they have no ties to whatsoever simply to stand apart from everyone else. It's an unhealthy obsession with race and it's not surprising we have the problems we do as a result.