Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

the majority of black americans are middle class, white collared or business owners, & living in the suburbs.

 

We certainly used to, but then we had fairly rapid educational and economic gains in the postwar era went disproportionately to whites; and a growing subset of them began to disdain social aid or urban infrastructure for the sake of tax relief from some pretty high marginal rates, to the point that by the '70s entitlement policy became more closely associated with black voters and issues.

 

But have they actually tested her security...? And have they tested the security of any republican candidates...?

 

I don't recall running away from a thread. I try to answer anything directed at me. Personal attacks aside, I would say the personal acts of the individuals are to blame. I know the white man is scary or whatever, but he is not sticking black mens' penises into black womens' vaginas without condoms.

Nice to know I have a fan...

I think the government should not treat people differently based on the color of their skin, nor should it infringe on private property rights. What bull**** I am spouting. If only there were some textual support for my ideas somewhere in the documents by which we are ostensibly governed. If only someone had put into the Constitution something about the government not interfering with contracts, maybe something about all persons being equal, and perhaps throw in something about not being denied liberty or property without due process. Gah, if only I had been there, I could have told Madison to slip this stuff in.

Sure. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, regardless of their skin color. With very few (and criminal) exceptions, no one forces someone to have unprotected sex. No one forces someone to commit a violent crime. Appropos to the BLM movement and it's constant references to the likes of Bland and Brown, no one forces someone to fight with the police when they pull up and calmly speak to someone. At least, that has been my experience these 35 years. Maybe you have experience something different. Has whitey forced you to have unprotected sex? To commit a violent crime? To fight with the police? How? When?

Do you even recognize the irony in this statement? The entire BLM movement is woe is me. Hell, all identity politics are based around woe is me

 

They're idiots who ought to be supporting Sanders, not disrupting his campaign.

 

Even if current GOP policies help black people (and they don't.) it's very hard to vote for a party that in past history has shown disdain for black people. All I have to say is the 'Southern Strategy' to that...and recent history is a party that just shows 0 empathy towards black people. I can watch Bill O rant weekly about black people and give his lectures to black people or pull up some pretty insane things ole Rush has said. Those are the voices of their media pretty much. The actual party continues to pander to this part of their base that just doesn't care about black people, this part of their base that says "YEAH, I like that Trump guy because he told those Mexicans how it is!" and pretty much all Democrats have to do to win any political race in this country is get the voters to actually vote. I'm just telling you how it is Glen, tell your party to get their ish together when it comes to minorities.

So it's the lesser of two evils. The Democratic party right now is far from perfect. No matter the policy of the GOP, they are never going to win that vote for that reason. It's not like most people even pay attention to the issues or the policies any ways...but when you have candidates standing behind the history of the confederate flag until the shooting, how can you expect black people to vote for that?

Any ways, most of the American public has no idea who they are voting for. Many of the people that vote republican vote against their own interests too. So many people just vote D or R accordingly no matter what.

Even if Carson was the guy most black people would still vote democratic.

 

yep. worst protesters ever. i give them 0 signs.

 

No it isn't, you put the racism there. They don't say white lives don't matter.

Sandra Bland was not lawfully arrested. Being annoyed at getting a ticket and smoking a cigarette in a car is not unlawful. Give her the ticket and move on. He was the instigator and was trying to escalate the situation.

The evidence does not support Darren Wilson, that is just a blatant lie.

What about Tamir Rice? 12 year old kid, playing with toy gun outside. Citizen calls the police, says it could be a toy gun. Cops pull up and shot the kid dead in 2 seconds...literally.

Can't recall his name right now but the black teen who was killed for walking around in a store with a toy gun he bought.

 

Let's deal with the last paragraph.

Unintended pregnancies? There is stronger causation between unwanted pregnancies and poverty and abstinence only sex education than African American people. Abstinence only states have the highest abortion and std numbers.

The Drug War is an attack on African Americans. African American's are disproportionally stopped for drugs compared to Whites even though statistically they use illicit drugs at the same rate.

Black Lives Matter is more so protesting white cops killing unarmed black people when it isn't warranted.



The Prison Industrial Complex

 

"How long do you want?"

"STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!!!!!!"

I especially like the awkward playing of the John Legend song not once but twice.

 

But they do take umbrage when someone says, "Of course black live matter. White lives matter. All lives matter." That was immediately booed. So clearly they do have a problem with equality.

I am sorry, but you are simply wrong. You may not like what happened, but Officer Encinia (sp?) did nothing illegal. It is within his authority to order her out of her car (which he conveniently told her over and over again, "I'm giving you a lawful order"). When she refuses to comply with that order, it is within his authority to arrest her.

It supported him so much that he was not even indicted. There is an old saying that a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. Then the prosecutor came out and gave a 20 minute press conference on exactly how the evidence supported Officer Wilson. To give you one example, the autopsy shows that despite what several of the witnesses said, Mike Brown was only shot from the front, consistent with Wilson's recounting of events. It also showed that it is unlikely he had his hands up while being shot, despite the hands up, don't shoot chants.

What about him. The cops handled the entire situation incorrectly. They should have approached more surreptitiously and within cover, then made an attempt to ascertain whether or not the gun was real. Then they should have provided a real opportunity to have him drop the gun. I can't find a good video of it, I have only seen really choppy and jumpy videos. If he points a gun at them when they roll up, because they have bungled the whole incident so badly tactically, they have little choice but to shoot. If he didn't then they should go down for at least manslaughter.

I assume you are talking about John Crawford. That cop should probably also get a manslaughter charge. They had absolute surprise on their side. There is no audio in any of the videos I have seen, so I have no idea if they even told him to drop the gun, but they had other options available. Would have been a perfect time to use a flashbang, for example.

Whichever paragraphs you want to talk about are fair game.

First, I wasn't the one that raised the issue. That was GlenDice. I was responding specifically to pouhe laying the blame for those issues, to the extent they exist in the black community, on white people (specifically white quarantine and neglect). The ultimate responsibility for unintended pregnancy lies with the people having unprotected sex. As such, insofar as unintended pregnancies happen in black communities between two black people, white quarantine and neglect cannot ultimately be responsible. White people are not the proximate cause.

The drug war is an idiocy perpetrated on all Americans. Drugs should be legalized, along with everything else that has no victim. As for African American's being stopped disproportionately, I would venture a guess that it has something to do with the violence related to the drug trade that happens disproportionately among the black communities. It could be simple racism, but I don't think the evidence is sufficient to come to that conclusion yet.

Why limit it to unwarranted killing of black people only? That is what makes it racist. Also, why are two of their very limited set of examples not involving white cops killing unarmed black people when it isn't warranted (Bland and Brown)?

I have found it incredibly easy to avoid prison, how about you? To get to prison, you have to be convicted of a felony. The number of people wrongly convicted of a felony, though far to high, is minuscule. Certainly the PIC at least partially drives our drug war policies, which sucks, but it is ultimately within the power of the people to legalize drugs. For proof of that look no further than Colorado or Washington.

 

StupidMoniker - why don't you just go back to posting Gorilla pics.

 

One thing at a time. Also, I am just going to leave this right here.

 

Cecil was a lion. Are you saying that the outcry should have been directed toward all animals?
#turkeylivesmatter

She was raped. Men are raped in prison. Should she also champion the abolition of violent sexual proclivities in jail?
#assrapematters

Kind Sir, when you give such weight to the minimization of the movement then you cloud a very specific problem. Or maybe that's your intent. Sure, there are opportunists who care more about their 15 minutes than the movement itself but the core issue still remains. Black people are the most susceptible to police brutality. It's a fact. Again, I've been on both sides of this and my first hand knowledge should be more convincing than that of the armchair quarterback.

I'm a conservative African American who drives a mid sized SUV.
I was a cop.
I don't smoke weed.
I don't drink in my car.
I have no criminal history.

Yet every time I get pulled over my hands sweat, my heart palpitates and I put more thought into how to diffuse a potentially violent situation than the location of my drivers license and insurance.

 

Latinos Lives Matter too breh!...

Just stating facts.
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You do realize officer Wilson was not indicted, right?

 

LOL, wait, what? Do you seriously believe that or are you just making a joke? It's really hard to tell via text based communication.

 

So you think all cops are violent, trigger happy racists? Who taught you this type of thinking and why do you think it's acceptable to profile against law enforcement?

 

No I don't.
You can't profile "against" anything.