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odom signs offer!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by yaonotyo, Aug 11, 2003.

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  1. yaonotyo

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    just seen on espn odom signed 15 day offer sheet with the heat no odom for the rocks:(
     
  2. AGBee

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    And NOBODY is shocked.
     
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    if les doesn't break CBA rules and jump in with a matching offer, then he is clearly a cheap b*stard.
     
  6. Jeff

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    Yeah, but an average of $10 million per season for six years? Seriously? I like Odom and all, but this is a guy who is like two positive tests away from having to sit out an entire year for substance abuse violations.

    Pass.
     
  7. R0ckets03

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    How the hell is Leslie Alexander suppose to match this offer? :confused:

    And I also like Odom, but the dude is definitely not worth 63 mill right now.
     
  8. heypartner

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    the is pretty close to Rashard Lewis's contract.

    Jeff,

    Pot can only get you suspended for 5 games at a time. The league treats Pot, Steriods and "Drug of Abuse" (like cocain) all differently. For pot, you just keep going back into league mandated treatment; and as long as the Medical Director says you are complying, then you are back on the job in 5 games.

    another thing that makes him not worth this is his injuries. he hasn't played 50 games in the last 2 years.

    That makes me curious to know if the contract is incentive-laden like Lewis's was, requiring him to play 70 games to get another million, or something like that.
     
  9. YoYao

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    Let him walk away! he hasn't been playing well since like 2 years ago? and he can't play along with Elton Brand, let him go!!!
     
  10. ROXTXIA

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    Actually this is good news.

    Once the Odom issue is settled, Miami can make other trades. As JVG wants a bruising power forward, and Jerry West has a jones for Jones, and Cat is trade bait, and Miami needs more players, and Miami's assistant coach is related to our head coach....and Odom is old buddies with both Mo (Puff the Magic Dragon/lived...) and Cat....
     
  11. pasox2

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    This will clear some things up when it shakes out, like Roxtxia sez. I wonder where Miami is going to play Dwane Wade? They still need a center. They'll be ready to trade. They'd probably prefer to trade Jones and keep Grant, but, hey.


    I'd see

    C - tba
    PF - tba
    Odom - point f
    Butler -2
    Wade -2

    Maybe Cato and Taylor for Grant? How hungry are they for big players?

    otherwise, its Vlad Step and Samaki Walker.
     
  12. pasox2

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    Shoot, I spoke too soon about Vlad.

    Mavericks considering Stepania or a trade

    Art Garcia, StarTelegram Staff Writer

    The Mavericks remain interested in free agent Vladimir Stepania and might sign him, according to league sources, if they can't trade for a big man soon.


    Among the possible trade targets for the Mavs are Dale Davis, Antonio Davis, Kurt Thomas, Vitali Potopenko, Brian Grant, Eric Dampier, Adonal Foyle, Danny Fortson and Marcus Camby.

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    Two bigger-name big men, Rasheed Wallace and Kenyon Martin, are not realistic targets for the Mavs, sources said.


    Wallace is on the trading block in Portland, and Martin has said he wants to be traded. However, Wallace's contract (worth more than $15 million next season) and Martin's situation (he's a restricted free agent after the season and the Nets likely want to throw high-priced Dikembe Mutombo into any trade) make the chances of the Mavs dealing for either slim.


    Mavs president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said the team is in no hurry to make a trade.


    "It's a waiting game," Nelson said Monday from Lithuania. "Each team has a different set of circumstances. There are times when you think you're close to something and someone gets cold feet, the deal is too rich or someone throws a zinger into it.


    "It's so tough to predict what's going to happen."


    As far as available big men go, Stepania is probably at the top of what remains on the free-agent market. The 7-foot-1, 255-pounder just completed his fifth season in the league and averaged a career-best 7.0 rebounds per game for Miami.


    Stepania, who made $1.35 million last season, is seeking a multi-year deal. Several teams, in addition to the Mavs, have shown preliminary interest.


    "We've been in touch with Dallas," said Mark Fleisher, Stepania's agent. "They've expressed interest, and we've agreed to continue talking."


    Nelson said the perception around the league that the Mavs are desperate to make a move for a low-post presence has affected negotiations.


    "Everyone thinks we're desperate. We're not desperate," said Nelson, who returns from a coaching stint with the Lithuanian national team Friday. "We're ready to go to war with what we have. We're a good team, and we're not going to get pushed into a corner.


    "We don't need to make a deal. Our best tactic may be to keep this team together and see what we have at the trading deadline. Pressure is self-inflicted, and we're feeling no pressure."


    Nelson said the Mavericks would prefer to keep Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel together. But he said no player is off-limits.


    "To get better you have to trade significant pieces to get significant pieces, usually," Nelson said. "In some form or fashion, everyone's name gets thrown into a scenario. That's the way the game is played.


    "Of course, our preference is to keep the core together. But it's not like that's going to prevent us for making a deal that makes sense."


    The Mavs are scheduled to resume talks with free agent Raja Bell after Nelson returns. Herb Rudoy, Bell's agent, said negotiations have gone slowly.


    "Right now their offer is not very satisfactory," Rudoy said. "We're going to continue talking to other teams.


    "Donnie and I have agreed to talk next week. Raja really wants to come back to Dallas. We'll just see what happens."


    In his first season with the team, the defensive-minded swingman proved a valuable contributor, starting 32 times. Utah, Atlanta and San Antonio are also believed to have interest in Bell.


    Insurance issues bug Cuban


    Before the World Championships last summer, Mark Cuban voiced concern over the lack adequate insurance covering Mavericks playing in the tournament. Michael Finley and Raef LaFrentz (Team USA) and Dirk Nowitzki (Germany) participated.


    Steve Nash (Canada) and Eduardo Najera (Mexico) are scheduled to play in an Olympic qualifying tournament that begins Aug. 20 in Puerto Rico. The Mavs' owner said his position on insurance covering his investments in players hasn't changed.


    "Reggie Miller last year was the perfect example of why I am concerned," Cuban said. "Unfortunately, I have no say in the matter at all."


    Miller sprained an ankle last summer playing for Team USA and missed the first 14 games of the NBA season.


    So Miami can't really re-sign him. They have no one.
     
  13. SLA

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    Okay. So who is going to play small forward?

    Caron Butler or Lamar Odom?
     
  14. Easy

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    I heard the LA media saying that the Clippers probably WILL match the offer despite Odom's public statement about not wanting to play for them.
     
  15. codell

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    I imagine they will start Odom, Butler and Jones all together (Butler and Jones in the backcourt) and use Odom as a point forward??

    Either that or they have some plans to move Jones.
     
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    Will LAC match?????

    1. Donald loves LO......... well, no Donald had LO traded to CLE with Butler for Miller last year.....except LAC crack employees had just drafted Wilcox.... and no trade from PHX....and no trade from MIA.

    2. The LAC need LO to compete..... well, no. They admitted they have no intentions of competing when they let Kandi and Miller go for nothing..... a S&T for even picks and ending contracts would have left the door open....but, noooooooooooooooo.

    3. LO is the most marketable LAC.....well, not any more, atleast for a while. "NBA hell" and "disgruntled employee" just did not sell too well even in Clipperland.

    4. The budget calls for a CAP team and collecting NBA dollars for doing just that..... well, the truth approaches. The budget includes LO, and the budget is business and DTS is about business.

    5. DTS promised Dunleavy he would match Brand and LO..... that cinches it....... LO will be matched......

    Budget, Business and the word of ...... well, if not a gentleman... the word of a businessman....... and that is business in LA.
     
  17. heypartner

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    LA Times reported that Dunleavy is considering Odom at Point Forward, too. Or maybe they are speculating that. Anyhow, it's in today's LA Times.
     
  18. pgabriel

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    Cato and Taylor are always hungry.
     
  19. heypartner

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    Well, no.

    Kandi had no intention helping with a SnT, he stated that last year when they turned down his completely ridiculous request for twice the money he got as an unrestricted free agent this summer. Kandi is a player to just let go at his original asking price.

    Miller's SnT is quite complicated. There is such thing as matching salaries. You can't trade Miller for picks to just any team. SnTs involving big salaries are difficult to pull off, as you have to involve a team with a big trade exception or cap room to absorb Miller's salary going out, or you have to take back Miller's salary coming in. When you have cap room to spend, sometimes the players in SnT offers you get don't interest you more than other free agents you can spend your cap on--like Odom. How does that not make sense?

    anyhow, the LA Times disagrees with you. They say the Miller issue was about his play, and not financial.

    If they sign Odom, Brand, Maggette and Dunleavy to $10m, how can you not say that DTS wants to compete?
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    If I were any league GM I wouldn't sign Odom to a 10year 60 mil deal--I really doubt Sterling matches given Odom's health/ethic/off court issues especially in that Odom hasn't really improved much since entering the year. Brand and Maggette were much more solid bets for this conversative/cheap (however you want to look at it) owner.

    The only way I think Sterling might do this is if he HAS to still spend 10 million, but even then I think we would seek short term deals.

    In general I can't see the infatuation with Odom from Rocket fans. He can't shoot the 3, is a decent-mediocre off the ball shooter from midrange, isn't much of a defender, not really quick enough for the better swingmen, and not strong enough to play the power 4s. What Odom really excells in is breaking down the defense with the ball in his hands and passing--but he would not get much a chance to do this on a team with the even more substantial mismatches created when the ball is in SF & Yao's hands.
     

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