ESPN Insider: Trade Suggestion - Eddie Jones for Rice, Nachbar

HELL YES. Who proposed this? LOL...Rice and Nachbar for Jones......why not?!? When does Jones' contract end? I'd do it. I don't care about salaries.....give Moochie to the Jazz or move some guys for expiring contracts. I don't see anything bad about that. Nachbar seems like a major bust. BUT..if an ESPN Insider proposed this....maybe Nachbar has some potential. Well actually, this guy cares more about the Rockets! I would do it.

 

Screw capspace and outside shooting I would do that deal RIGHT NOW! Unfortunately the Rockets wouldn't because they're worried about the luxury tax. If the Rockets could pull off that deal not only would they be a lock for the playoffs they would be a nightmare to face in the first round with a trio of guards like Cat, Jones and Steve along with a frontline that includes Yao Ming!

 

Let me get this straight. You don't want to pay James Posey the MLE but would do this deal "RIGHT NOW".

Eddie Jones will turn 32 at the start of the season, makes $12+,$13+, 14+, and 15+ million over the next 4 seasons and has played 80 games only once in the last 5 years.

 

Eddie Jones--talk about a rich-man's Posey, and at 32yrs old. I can just hear RIET and others who are screaming that we should pay Posey because he's the better starter, do a complete turnaround and take the salary side of the argument and say, "Man, we could have had Posey for 1/3rd the price of Jones" despite Jones being much superior to Posey.

lol!!

I've always really liked Jones though, and I'm sure Cuttino does, too.

but man, $12m for Jones--at age 32. I'd like to look into a 3-way where the 3rd team gets Jones and we get something from them.

 

I like this trade BETTER!
Houston trades: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes)
PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 16.8 minutes)
PF Maurice Taylor (8.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.6 minutes)
C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 17.1 minutes)
Houston receives: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PF Brian Grant (10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.6 ppg, +1.2 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PF Brian Grant (10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Miami receives: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 62 games)
PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 82 games)
PF Maurice Taylor (8.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 67 games)
C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 73 games)
Change in team outlook: -2.6 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

 

haha...he beat me to it.

RIET...your argument is that it's not about money, you should sign the best starter.

Now I get it,,,,you are just against veterans, that everyone should be young with potential.

well, tell ya what, Posey's potential is not to be as good as Eddie Jones. He doesn't have it. So it boils down to who gives us the best next 4 yrs--Jones or Posey. Don't look past 4yrs when you are talking about Posey---who would have been our 5th most important starter.

 

Of course Id say that because it's logical.

Eddie Jones at age 32-35 with an average of $14+ million over 4 years.

Are you insane.

Can you imagine how many games he'll miss at ages 32, 33,34, and 35.

Do you think a 34 or 35 year old Eddie Jones will be better than a 28 year old James Posey? Eddie Jones is all about quickness. 1 more injury and he's history.

 

I'm not as sharp with the salary math as the rest of you folks, so this could be a silly comment. But once Rice comes off the books, aren't those savings already earmarked for the ballooning contracts of Francis and eventually Yao? Our long-term priorities are re-signing Francis and Yao; I'd hate to see us jeopardize that with Eddie Jones.

 

Of course you like this trade, we get rid of 4 fat contracts and recieve 2 fat (more sensible) contracts instead. Miami gm would probably get fired for this one.

 

The writer answered his own question right there. The Rockets might cross into luxury land for Tim Duncan, but they'd have to be on crack to do it for Eddie Jones. Good player, but not worth the $40 million or whatever it would cost.

 

Actually, I think this would help both teams because MoT and Cato are worth more than Brian Grant, but since we have Yao, Cato is expendible. When Rices contract comes off the books, they can still get someone for the PG position. Their lineup would be.

Cato
MoT
Butler
Who ever they can get with their capspace next year.
Odom

We still would be in luxury tax territory but we could be contenders with a lineup of

SF/Cat
Eddie Jones/Cat/Pike
Griffin/Cat/Boki
Brian Grant/Eddie G
Yao Ming/Brian Grant/Scrub

 

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Yeah, thats what we need

 

Jones has 56 million due to him over the next 4 years. No thanks. I would easily take Lamar Odom at 66 mill/6 years over Jones 56 mill/4 years.

The deal makes a ton of sense for the Heat, but not the Rockets, unless it's Mo Taylor going the other way instead of Rice. The Heat cap situation is sick- the only players they have signed beyond this year are overpriced Grant and Jones, Butler and Wade (still unsigned) on rookie contracts, and now Odom.

I'll pass on taking these 4 year contracts for Rice. Minnesota got Sprewell with only 2 years left (one being a player option year) with their cap chip. Save the 4 year+ contracts for guys who will actually make a difference in this team's future (Steve, Yao)

heypartner- Of course if you like Jones, Cuttino will like him, too.

BTW- LA Times is saying the Clippers will "probably" match.

 

umm, 5yrs ago he played all 50 games in the strike shortened season. No one played 80 games.

Besides, big freaking whoop. Allen Iverson has only had 2 80 game seasons in his career. Kobe only 2. Francis only 2. Paul Pierce only 2.

so, would you take Christie over Posey. Finley over Posey? Or just no one 30+yrs old over Posey?

Oh, I get it ... you would take Posey because he's a bargain vs Jones. hmmm...that argument sounds mighty familiar.

As far as I remember, Jones has never had a big injury...nothing more than Cuttino or Francis have had....so I don't know why you are making some hyperbole about "one more injury and he's finished." You can't say that like it's some fact...just as some cheap means to apply RIET logic. I don't find it a given that great defensive guards drop off the table fast. I find that to be more about offensive players who drive into harms way break down sooner, but not necessarily the defensive stoppers. That's no given.

In a Cuban world where money doesn't matter, I'd most definitely take a Eddie over Posey for the next 4yrs. That said, I also took money into consideration, and despite this allowing us to make good use of Rice's contract for at least 2yrs, Eddie is way too expensive; hence, why I'd look for a 3-way to have someone else take Eddie and we get something from them.

My main attraction to Eddie Jones is it could do wonders for Cuttino Mobley. Mobley refers to Jones as his "mentor." It would be pretty simple to tell Mobley to come off the bench in tandem with Jones, and that's quite a strong 3 guard lineup, too.

 

Don't even try to insinuate that, NIKEstrad. Cuttino Mobley has always talked about Eddie Jones as his mentor growing up.

look it up....I'm not making that up.

 

Who wrote this, Pat Riley? His son?

No... f...ing... way.

Only a complete moron would do this deal.

No way Rice is in the deal. Expiring contract is needed to pay Steve. If we move Rice have to get a short contract back somewhere.

Only way we deal with Miami for a fat, long contract is if they take our trash back, and give us a pick.

Salaries don't match, too.

 

What a waste of $56 million. Eddie Jones would be the highest paid player on the team, and one of the highest paid in the NBA! So you're going to give him McGrady type money for lackluster production?

I agree with RIET, in that we're giving away an expiring contract and a potential stud for a overpaid swingman, whose best days are behind him. Miami signed him for that stupid deal - let them worry about paying him.

 

I might do it if they take Mo Taylor and Moochie

-G'day-

 

Last year, Eddie Jones played in only 47 games due to a knee injury, a hamstring injury, and a "seemingly endless ankle injury".

From the ESPN Insider article:

The four years, $56 million left on his contract is just one of the problems the Heat face in moving him. Jones played in just 47 games for the Heat last year because of injury. At 31, Jones' defensive skills also appear to be on the decline. The good news is that in the 47 games he did play, Jones averaged 18.5 ppg, pulled down 4.8 rpg and shot 41 percent from 3. Those are all around career bests for him.


I will make a friendly wager that Eddie Jones will not play another 80 game season in his career.