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Henson's baseball options dwindling?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by drapg, Jul 31, 2003.

  1. CriscoKidd

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    Like I said before - if the Texans manage to trade him for a 2nd or 3rd rounder, then that's a huge win for them.

    But I wouldn't hold my breath on getting a 1st.
     
  2. mateo

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    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2023895

    Henson's drawing interest as trade bait, Casserly says
    By CARLTON THOMPSON
    Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
    Texans general manager Charley Casserly said Friday he has been contacted by a team interested in trading for quarterback Drew Henson, the Texans' sixth-round pick who is playing minor-league baseball for the New York Yankees' Class AAA affiliate in Columbus, Ohio.

    Casserly declined to identify the team but said the Texans did not initiate the contact.

    Speculation about Henson giving up baseball intensified Thursday when the Yankees traded for Cincinnati Reds third baseman Aaron Boone. Speculation ranges from the Yankees moving Henson to the outfield to trying to trade the former Michigan quarterback who has struggled at the plate and in the field.

    Henson signed a six-year, $17 million contract with the Yankees in 2001. In order for the Texans to trade Henson, who likely would have high value, they would have to sign him to a contract. The Texans would allow Henson to negotiate with other teams and act as a go-between in any deal. David Carr is entrenched as the Texans' quarterback.

    "We talked to (Henson's representatives) on draft day and agreed to let the baseball season play out," Casserly said. "Clearly, if he decides to play football, to me, he would have the most appeal to a contending team who otherwise might not have the opportunity to acquire a good young quarterback of his caliber. Right now, it's a little premature until the baseball thing gets worked out."

    WHOA
     
  3. 4chuckie

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    Do you have any sources witht eh Texans who may know how this works? You may be right about graduation year, but I remember a couple different scenarios that I remember.

    Back when Dallas took Hershel Walker from the USFL I remember hearing that they owned his rights for 2-3 years (this could have easily been changed since that time).

    Also last year when Dallas signed Hutchison he was a FA, granted he is older so it may have to do with his year of graduation.

    That would really be a steal for the Texans to get a potential top 5 pick in the 6th round. An extra 1st-2nd round pick (if you could trade him for that) would be a great pick.

    PS- Henson has finally just started in the last month to hit the ball better here in Columbus. Now he is not hitting it great, but I think this is more like what the Yankees expected from him last year. So he may not have a future in Columbus but he's playing well enough to possibly get a shot on another team maybe next year (granted most other teams would have to have a trade where the Yankees assumed much of his salary). So I definetely wouldn't say he is done in baseball, he may just be done in the Yankee system it appears.
     
  4. xiki

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    Texans own Rights up to NEXT year's Draft.

    They will deal him before then. Chalk up a very big "W" next to Charley Casserley's name!
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    well, it's not a question of sources -- it's a league rule: you must enter the draft for a certain period of time, and that time is based on something to do with college... how's that for a definitive answer? :) i just don't remember the rule off the top of my head.

    point is, he can't be a free agent until, at the very earliest, after next year's draft. so the notion he's better off waiting until he's a free agent isn't necessarily true because that won't happen for awhile. henson's in an enviable position.
     
  6. xiki

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    This way Henson picks his future. Green Bay? Sounds like the perfect destination, for example. By picking team he dictates contract. Texans dictate terms of trade. Say a 1st and a 4th?

    He's free of the Texans at the next Draft, but then who knows what may occur to Henson.

    Thus, it's Texans with the Yankee buy out impending.
     
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    http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/2403.htm

    HENSON'S CLOSE TO SHEDDING PINSTRIPES

    By GEORGE KING

    August 4, 2003 -- OAKLAND - Because he has struggled with the Columbus Clippers the past two seasons and the Yankees acquired third baseman Aaron Boone this week, Drew Henson understands his time as a Yankee could be running out - even though he is owed $12 million across the next three seasons.

    In the wake of GM Brian Cashman's summation of the third baseman's lack of development after the Boone trade, Henson told the Columbus Dispatch it may be time to move on.

    "I want to be somewhere where I'm wanted, and if that's not here, then that's fine," Henson told the paper Saturday. "But I've still got a month left to the season. I'm going to try to finish strong regardless of what my future is with the Yankees."

    Hours after acquiring Boone from the Reds on Thursday, Cashman was very pointed in discussing the effect the deal had on Henson, who is batting .228 with 12 homers and 58 RBIs at Triple-A.

    "Drew Henson hasn't developed to the point where he is in consideration for the major league side," Cashman said. "By this move we recognize there is a position of need for the organization and we can improve upon it now. The move for Aaron Boone speaks volumes as to Drew Henson in terms of his development at this time."

    Henson responded to that by saying: "I work my [butt] off here every day and everyone that's around me knows that. I couldn't care less about what people think about me. The important thing is how I feel about myself, my teammates and my family. If anything, it gives me more motivation to keep going."

    Henson, a former Michigan quarterback, steadfastly denies he is thinking about chucking baseball and taking a shot at the NFL. Houston owns his rights after taking him in the sixth round of the draft.
     
  8. VesceySux

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    HensonWatch 2003 rages on... According to today's ESPN Insider:

    Aug. 4 - The Houston Texans, who drafted Henson in the spring and own his NFL rights, have been contacted by an unidentified NFL team about trading for the former Michigan quarterback, reports the Houston Chronicle. There has been increasing speculation this week that the Yankees will give up on Henson, once thought to be their third baseman of the future. Henson's agent, Casey Close, predicted the Yankees would trade Henson, according to the Chronicle.

    The Texans, who have second-year man David Carr entrenched at QB, would have to sign Henson before trading him, but they could allow himto work out a deal with another team and execute a sign-and-trade arrangement.

    However, Henson's contract with the Yankees stipulates he cannot play football while he is still playing baseball. And it will be difficult for Henson to walk away from a contract that will pay him $14 million through 2006, all guaranteed. But if the Yankees decide to release him and eat that contract, the NFL will be waiting.

    "We talked to (Henson's representatives) on draft day and agreed to let the baseball season play out," Texans GM Charley Casserly told the Chronicle. "Clearly, if he decides to play football, to me, he would have the most appeal to a contending team who otherwise might not have the opportunity to acquire a good young quarterback of his caliber. Right now, it's a little premature until the baseball thing gets worked out."

    Henson is hitting just .228 in 108 games for Triple-A Columbus this season. He has struck out 97 times in 390 at-bats and made 22 errors at third base. Yankees' GM Brian Cashman told the N.Y. Post, "Drew Henson hasn't developed to the point where he is in consideration for the major-league side. By this move, we recognize there is a position of need for the organization and we can improve upon it now. The move for Aaron Boone speaks volumes as to where Drew Henson is in terms of his development at this time."
     
  9. RunninRaven

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    So the Texans are not allowed to trade the rights to Henson? Since we have already been contacted, I was hoping they could go ahead and take what they can get, since I have a feeling that Henson won't be too accomodating to the Texans...but if he has to sign first, then nothing can be done until he officially quits baseball and decides to go for football.
     
  10. The Real Shady

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    If I were Bob McNair or Charlie Casserly I would contact the Yankees behind the scenes and offer to help them buy out his contract. It would essentially be paying a couple million dollars for a possible 1st round pick.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    almost certainly a violation of the cap. his deal with the yankees is his and their problem, not ours.
     
  12. Mr. Mooch

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    Hmmm, he wouldn't mind being traded from the Yankees.

    What do you think, Henson for Ensberg?
     
  13. DVauthrin

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    Mr Mooch,

    Please tell me you did not just propose henson for ensberg. That would screw the astros, and it isn't worth acquiring henson, he sucks at baseball.
     
  14. Mr. Mooch

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    I think I was joking, maybe, maybe no.

    I mean Henson says he won't give up baseball. He's just to afraid to admit he sucks and doesn't want to be labeled a quitter.

    Ensberg > Henson anyday.
     
  15. DVauthrin

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    I agree, I just was questioning your sanity for each posing such a trade, as you can imagine.

    Henson should just switch to football now, the quicker the better for him, imho.
     
  16. Mr. Mooch

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    Yeah, he has gotta pull a John Elway soon. (well, kind of)
     
  17. reallyBaked

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    Drew Henson

    Source: ESPN Insider

    Aug. 4 - The Houston Texans, who drafted Henson in the spring and own his NFL rights, have been contacted by an unidentified NFL team about trading for the former Michigan quarterback, reports the Houston Chronicle. There has been increasing speculation this week that the Yankees will give up on Henson, once thought to be their third baseman of the future. Henson's agent, Casey Close, predicted the Yankees would trade Henson, according to the Chronicle.
    The Texans, who have second-year man David Carr entrenched at QB, would have to sign Henson before trading him, but they could allow himto work out a deal with another team and execute a sign-and-trade arrangement.

    However, Henson's contract with the Yankees stipulates he cannot play football while he is still playing baseball. And it will be difficult for Henson to walk away from a contract that will pay him $14 million through 2006, all guaranteed. But if the Yankees decide to release him and eat that contract, the NFL will be waiting.

    "We talked to (Henson's representatives) on draft day and agreed to let the baseball season play out," Texans GM Charley Casserly told the Chronicle. "Clearly, if he decides to play football, to me, he would have the most appeal to a contending team who otherwise might not have the opportunity to acquire a good young quarterback of his caliber. Right now, it's a little premature until the baseball thing gets worked out."

    Henson is hitting just .228 in 108 games for Triple-A Columbus this season. He has struck out 97 times in 390 at-bats and made 22 errors at third base. Yankees' GM Brian Cashman told the N.Y. Post, "Drew Henson hasn't developed to the point where he is in consideration for the major-league side. By this move, we recognize there is a position of need for the organization and we can improve upon it now. The move for Aaron Boone speaks volumes as to where Drew Henson is in terms of his development at this time."
     
  18. VesceySux

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    reallyBaked... you must be... ahem... really baked. I posted the SAME ESPN Insider article on the first page of this thread. :)
     

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