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Why aren't you guys ok with terry being the backup sg?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketsballin, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. rocketsballin

    rocketsballin Member

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    he made a lot of us eat crow in the reg season by being a legit 3pt threat, and stepped up in the playoffs. with harden at sg and small ball lineups at pg he wont avg mroe than 15mpg (assuming team is relatively healthy).

    im all for terry as the backup sg
     
  2. Pen15clubber

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    As long as we add a badass pg and have bev and harden I don't think anyone was upset with terry being the fourth man in that brotation
     
  3. RV6

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    Because Pat has a significant weakness that Terry doesn't really excel in anymore (driving) or never did (passing) and age catches up to everyone. A season could run almost a year, that's a long time, and Terry could realistically decline the whole way through.
     
  4. Mattician

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    He'll be another year older.
     
  5. ThatBoyNick

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    Brewer is the backup SG, and SF. So i'm fine with Terry being the 3rd string backup SG.

    If both Harden and Ariza get 35 per game (they will) and if Brewer gets 25 minutes per game (he will) then that's all the minutes on the wings. Terry can come in if theirs foul trouble, garbage time, injury, or if Brewer is having a terrible night.

    I'm confused on why people aren't aware that Harden/Ariza/Brewer is a obvious 3 way rotation. Leaving no minutes (except for 3rd string minutes) for Terry, Dekker, KJ, Papa or any other wing we probably won't sign.

    But with all this talk of Terry, he hasn't even re-signed yet.
     
  6. Verbal Christ

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    mainly because he cant shoot anymore.
     
  7. DreamShook

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    He wasn't shooting well because his legs were done. He was just playing way too many minutes.
     
  8. giddyup

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    So in this scenario Ariza is a 2 not a 3 and that still leaves room for a 1. Shouldn't we be talking about the rotation of 1 and 2 not 2 and 3?
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    What?

    In the scenario, Ariza would exclusively be playing the SF (Harden exclusively playing SG). Brewer will be playing both the SG and SF as a backup.

    Ariza and Hardens minutes would have to be staggered to the point where Brewer can play the backup role at both positions.
     
  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Some games he just doesn't have it. We need more consistency.
     
  11. count_dough-ku

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    He had way too many games last season where he was a complete nonfactor. I still want him on the team for his leadership and availability in the playoffs. But we need an upgrade at that position. A rotation of Bev and Terry is like waving the white flag to the rest of the Western Conference contenders.
     
  12. giddyup

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    When you talk about rotation, aren't you talking about a "guard" rotation? If Ariza is playing the 3, then someone still has to play the 1... such as Terry or whomever else.

    Having Harden, Terry and Brewer in the game is a "shift" not a "rotation!" I think the word rotation refers to how the game-minutes are divided up by players who play a similar position.

    Are we proposing sliding Ariza over to backup Harden? Harden plays more minutes than anyone, followed closely by Ariza, I bet.
     
  13. jayfree

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    Why nobody like to post my replies
     
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    I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.

    You don't always match up a guard with another guard in a rotation. When you don't have Ariza/Harden in the game then you can have either Brewer/Harden or Ariza/Brewer. That would mean however that you would have Ariza or Harden on the floor at all times.

    Terry is not really needed if we can bring back KJ as he wouldn't command very many minutes and probably wouldn't even play every game. But he would be ready if in the odd situation that Ariza or Harden had foul trouble or were ineffective or needed a night off. Then you could have Brewer at SF and KJ at SG for a spell.
     
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    When he is your only offseason news, then this offseason has been underwhelming

    except for the Bev and Brewer resigning, and the rookies
     
  16. ThatBoyNick

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    I was just talking about wing rotation (Just SG and SF) not the PG rotation. I'm hoping that Terry doesn't have to play the point, and that we can find a decent backup somehow. Terry or Prigs being the backup PG would be a damn travesty.

    Here's what i'm talking about.


    Beverley(24) / Backup(24)
    Harden(36) / Brewer(12)
    Ariza(35) / Brewer (13)
     
  17. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I'm fine with Terry playing about 12 minutes a game as a shooter and sinking 2-3 clutch 3's a game. I want him more for his veteran leadership and voice in the locker room
     
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    This. I'd be fine with bringing him back on a veteran minimum contract to get maybe the occasional 10-15 minutes per game. But Terry should not be playing 20+ minutes a game anymore and should not be the primary backup at any position for a contending team.

    Brewer should be the primary wing backup at the 2 and 3 getting 25-30 minutes a game and hopefully the Rockets will start slowly integrating Nick Johnson into the rotation or McDaniels if he gets re-signed. But depending on who Morey adds to the PG rotation, there could still be a few minutes a game for Terry at either guard spot.
     
  19. LCAhmed

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    because he played starting PG for us in the playoffs, which he might do again if we bring him in without another PG first.
     
  20. rocketsballin

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    i said he wouldnt get more than 15mpg, meaning 15mpg at most. his role would be greatly reduced from last season. less ball handling and more shooting. liek ariza, he was over used last season and had to do more in the playoffs. there's nothing wrong with him playing 12-15mpg. he's been unjustifiably underrated here. its like everyone forgot he was one of our best shooters in the rs and po
     

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