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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketjunkie, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Chuck Nevitt

    Chuck Nevitt Member

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    KPap, Prig, DMo, TJones and Dorsey combine for about $11.2, need about $2.8 million to get to $14 million in outgoing salaries to trade for LMa at $19 million. That means the Beverly contract would only need to start at $5.6 million first year?
     
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    I seriously doubt we throw DMo in on any "potential" sign-and-trade of LaMarcus. You can get the rest of the salary from Brewer sign-and-trade.
     
  3. sugrlndkid

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    Have a question...Now with the signings of Brewer and Beverley, it seems any S/T deals might be available(unlikely but available)...my question is that is there a way the Rockets could hypothetically extend DMo with a contract and then have him available for the S/T??
     
  4. koby1868

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    Bima,

    Would it be possible to sign and trade KJ or Josh smith as a part of any S&T to receive Aldridge without giving up Ariza?
     
  5. HI Mana

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    D-Mo is under contract next year for $2.28M, irrespective if he signs an extension for 2016 and beyond. Signing him to an extension will not increase his cap number for this year. In fact it actually makes him substantially more difficult to trade, since he'd still be treated as $2.28M in outgoing salary, but for the receiving team, he'd be treated as the average of the AAV of the new contract and the last year of his current contract. So for example, if he were to be signed to a 4/$60M extension, the Rockets could only take back $3.42M in salary, however whatever team they traded him to would have to send out a minimum of ($2.28+60)/5*2/3 = $8.3M. Very, very difficult to bridge that gap without a 3rd team or a sizeable trade exception.

    Theoretically, it is possible, but the MLE cannot be used in sign-and-trade transactions, so you'd be limited to a starting salary of $1.05M for KJ and $2.49M for Josh, so they're not going to be of much help. Jason Terry is likely going to be your best bet for sign-and-trade salary ballast. Not 100% sure if it's legal, but you could theoretically sign him to a 3-year deal with the first year guaranteed to fulfill the requirements of a sign-and-trade. You could then put a clause that guarantees the final two years of the contract if he is not waived by the first game of the season. In this way, which ever bad team with cap room that he winds up on will almost certainly waive him rather than guaranteeing him money until he's 40. He'd be protected from any other team claiming him off of waivers and holding him ransom like Andrei Kirilenko, would collect a big paycheck for not playing, and could latch on with any contender he chose. If anything, I'd expect this to be the likely case, even if not for Aldridge.
     
  6. BimaThug

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    The following is a blueprint to acquiring LaMarcus Aldridge without losing any key core pieces:

    STEP 1:
    Execute sign-and-trade for LaMarcus Aldridge (either two- or three-team deal)

    Houston gets:
    LaMarcus Aldridge (starting salary in $19.4 million range)

    Portland (and/or third team, collectively) gets:
    Signed-and-traded Jason Terry (3 years, only first year guaranteed)
    Kostas Papanikolaou (non-guaranteed)
    Pablo Prigioni (only $440k guaranteed)
    Terrence Jones
    Other Assets (multiple first round picks, etc.)

    Houston might have to renounce their rights to Josh Smith and/or K.J. McDaniels (depending on if Joey Dorsey and/or Nick Johnson are also dealt).

    With the Rockets not yet having signed their deals with Brewer and Beverley (allowing them to keep their lower cap holds on the books), they will not have exceeded the luxury tax threshold for salary matching purposes.

    STEP 2: Sign Corey Brewer and Patrick Beverley to their new contracts

    Brewer's and Beverley's cap figures will then increase to their starting salaries. They should still be under the apron level, although just barely if certain guys are dealt/renounced. They can sign shuffle roster a bit and sign their draft picks (and Wood).

    STEP 3: Use (at least some of) the Mid-Level Exception

    It might be a tight squeeze, but the Rockets could a portion of their MLE (maybe all of it, depending on how much additional salary gets dumped/renounced in connection with the Aldridge S&T) on another PG or to sign Harrell to a longer-term deal. They could possibly use it to pay Smith or McDaniels. But the MLE probably won't get them any world-beaters.


    Well, there you have it. A legitimate blueprint to fielding a championship contender featuring LaMarcus Aldridge and without sacrificing Trevor Ariza.
     
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    Doesn't Portland have to agree to that trade though? No way in hell they take that deal when they can get Ariza.
     
  8. Mkieke

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    Jet's theoretical non-guaranteed in Year 2 would probably just as valuable as Ariza in a future Portland trade. For instance, if they were to obtain a lottery pick in 2016, they could look to package a few of their younger players with Jet and the pick to go after, say, a DMC-esque player.

    Without LMA, Portland will be rebuilding. Ariza would only be valuable as a player they can flip.
     
  9. jch1911

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    Well, they could get NOTHING....

    But you have a valid point. Me thinks that Dekker would be thrown in to that pot.
     
  10. Rileydog

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    Bima, I guess we are assuming Terry is just going to do us a solid on the SNT? Why would an aging vet like him want to do this?
     
  11. BimaThug

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    Of course, Portland has to agree. But if Aldridge is ready to leave for San Antonio or Phoenix with the Blazers getting nothing, they'd be willing to entertain taking on a small amount of guaranteed salary and several young guys and picks.

    Dekker very well could be included. He's just one of several possible assets that can be included to entice Portland (or a third team).

    Yes. I had previously been apprehensive about making this assumption given the Rockets' and Terry's mutual desire to have him back next season. But with Brewer & Beverley agreeing to new deals already, I have a feeling that Terry is willing to play ball. He'll have nearly SIX MILLION reasons to play ball by agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal. He'll likely get waived/bought out and can still latch on with another contender. (Sadly, though, not the Rockets.)
     
  12. frontline94

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    Thanks BimaThug.

    Also, glad you didnt include dmo or ariza. I feel as if morey (like the most of us) recognize the importance of a bench including brew and dmo with a defensive juggernaut in ariza.
     
  13. Marsarinian

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    Thanks Bima. This is the ONE hypothetical trade scenario that deserves its own thread. I'm sure this scenario, or a variant, is one of the main options that Daryl is pursuing right now.
     
  14. joshuaao

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    Really appreciate you taking the time to break this down. Insane that this is even a possibility.
     
  15. HI Mana

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    Yes. I had previously been apprehensive about making this assumption given the Rockets' and Terry's mutual desire to have him back next season. But with Brewer & Beverley agreeing to new deals already, I have a feeling that Terry is willing to play ball. He'll have nearly SIX MILLION reasons to play ball by agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal. He'll likely get waived/bought out and can still latch on with another contender. (Sadly, though, not the Rockets.)[/QUOTE]

    Hey Bima, any idea if the proposed contact structure I mentioned earlier would pass muster in the CBA?

    3-year deal for Terry, only first year guaranteed if waived by Oct 31st, 2015? Would ensure that no Kirilenko/Sixers stuff goes on, cuts JET a check and basically ensures he can latch onto a contender?
     
  16. BimaThug

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    That might work.
     
  17. Deckard

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    Someone has to say it! So you think there's a chance, Bima? It's absurd, I'm sure, but LMA strolling with Pop in LA all dressed in red, with his hands in his pockets, gave me a glimmer of hope. Great job of explaining how we could get him without losing what I consider to be a key member of this team.
     
  18. HardenWay

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    Depends on where to. If it was to another contender like Chicago maybe.
     
  19. benchmoochie

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    legit proposal by bima. i could see terry going to portland getting cut or bought out whichever one then finishing his career in dallas. you know cuban is all over that.
     
  20. Scolalist

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    Can someone clarify this:

    Did the Rockets use any of there exemptions to resign Brew & Bev?
    Or did they have enough available cap space? And if so where do they stand now?
     

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