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By the end of the offseason, will Francis be a 1 or a 2!?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocket b-liever, Aug 7, 2003.

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  1. rocket b-liever

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    By the end of the offseason, will Francis be a 1 or a 2!? Francis will do way more damage at the 2 guard. We need a dam point guard. Its all doing great, but they are forgeting about francis. He definately needs to be at the 2 guard. So..........give me some feedback
     
  2. Rocketman15

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    I think he will start at the point because there are a plethora of Sg in the NBA and I don't know which team will give up a Pg for Mobley.
     
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    As of now, I feel more confident in the team if Francis were playing pt than starting at the 2, because if he were to move over, the only player the team has that could concievably start at the 1 is Moochie...do you really want that? And I don't think there's anyone out there in the FA market that the team could nab w/ what's left of the MLE that could qualify as a servicable starting pg. So unless a miracle happens and the Rockets make a trade for Kidd or a Kidd-esque type of pg, I'll be perfectly happy to have Francis at the 1...at least for now.
     
  4. KaiSeR SoZe

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    I hope he doesn't move to 2...I want to see him starting at the allstar game. Though that really isn't a viable reason keep him at one:)
     
  5. xiki

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    Depends on whether the Rox can move Mooch while adding Snow, or someone similar.

    I wouldn't mind SF staying at the 1 but playing part time at the 2, as he did when Mooch was 'earning' a contract.
     
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    The matchup is better for Steve both offensively and defensively @ the point. If he moves to the 2 he is no longer an Allstar. Cat's defense is highly underrated and he actually completes his drives to the basket more often than "the Franchise" so let's stop trying to move Steve over. :rolleyes:
     
  7. smoothie

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    YES! very well said!

    we have a great defencive team right now:

    yao, griff, griff, cat.......all above average defenders.

    under JVG:

    cato, moT, steve, and mooch can come around to be average defenders.
     
  8. Sane

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    The PG position is almost as thin as the C position in the NBA. I was looking at some depth charts yesterday, and there are not more than 3 teams with more than one starting quality PG on the roster.

    Personally, I'd target the following players while getting rid of Mobley:

    Eric Snow
    Jeff McInnis
    Micheal Redd
    Desmond Mason (would allow us to deal Rice AND Mobley)
    Derek Anderson
    Lamar Odom obviously



    I think those guys would fit in well, as all of them are good asst:to guys. I've always said that Francis is a PG, but he needs to play with another PG in the backcourt. Derek Anderson averaged around 5 assists per game, which would be great for us honestly alongside Francis. McInnis and Snow bring the same qualities to the court, for VERY low salaries. Mason would be a great defensive player at the 2, good shooter now, and can swing over to the 3 easily, making Rice expendeable since we're already loaded at backup 2/3 positions. Micheal Redd is essentially a cheaper and younger Allan Houston, a player discussed before. Odom is Odom. The reasons for acquirign him have been well documented.
     
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    Moving Steve to the 2, btw, would not remove him from the All Star game. The East usually start 2 SG's in the backcourt, and when voting for the All Star game, you pick 2 Guards, they don't say whether it's a PG or SG.
     
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    Wow, great information guys. thank you. But don't you think this is what the front office should be thinking about. I mean they do want more scoring threats. And like i said Fancis will fill that need.
     
  11. rocket b-liever

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    Plus i think i believe he can be in the top 5 in scoring! ide say 25 a game
     
  12. munco

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    I hope he gets moved to a 2 and we can trade for a PG. I think his game is more suited for the 2 position.
     
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    He's a point guard.
     
  14. rocket b-liever

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    If he wasnt a point guard he could put up 30 a night easy he is one of the top 15 scorers in the league and is a point guard.Just imagine if he didnt have to distribute the ball to everyone and be responsible for getting them all involved and could just focus on scoring and defense.
     
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    He'd be an Iverson clone. Lucky for Iverson, there are guys there who can pick up the slack on defense. There's no way in hell I want to see Francis trying to guard the likes of Kobe, T-Mac, Sprewell, Allen, and Finley. We don't need him to put up 30 a game when we have Ming and Mobley on the team as well. He needs to work on his passing, his offense is there when it's needed. Magic never averaged 30 a game, hell very few players in the modern era have averaged 30 a game.
     
  16. rocket b-liever

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    Well maybe not 30 but around 24 or 25. Listen JVG can switch steve on defense. On "D" he can guard the point guards, and on offense he can go for the 2 guard.
     
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    Yes, but the problem is who's gonna guard the opposing team's 2 guard then? That's the the whole crux of the problem - can the Rox get a 1 that can guard 2 guards?
     
  18. rocket b-liever

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    We could find a tall point guard. LOL
     
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    There are more problems with moving Steve to the 2 than problems it solves IMO:

    Like Nova said, you have to find a PG with size who can guard 2s. Then, assuming you find a PG with size, that player should be no doubt better than Steve in the PG role itself.

    In the end, I think we are better off keeping Mobley and Steve and seeing what Steve can accomplish under the new system and coach.
     
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    I have been a big proponent of moving Steve to the 2, but with the FA signings, I think letting it ride for the beginning of the season will be a good move. Let JVG figure out what he really has to work with and then work with them.
     

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