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Do you think Kobe will be back for next season?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by LeGrouper, Aug 1, 2003.

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Do you think Kobe will be able to play next season?

  1. Yes

    105 vote(s)
    73.4%
  2. No

    38 vote(s)
    26.6%
  1. LeGrouper

    LeGrouper Member

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    They got the butler on their side now.... Kobe's is screwed.

    See you in stripes golden child.... it's like grandma always said.... keep that sperm to yoself....
     
  2. Achebe

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    LeGrouper, I just saw that too. Kobe is totally screwed.

    Well if he's convicted and he was guilty, the system works.

    If he's convicted and he's innocent... he still committed adultery, so let's just pretend that God had an intervention.
     
  3. NJRockFan

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    I think there will be a plea bargain down to a lesser charge and he'll miss a few games. The accuser will file a civil suit.
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    At least he'd be able to referee. Ugh, sorry. :rolleyes:
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    NJRockFan,

    I think you hit the nail on the head......and if Kobe did do it, the girl deserves FAR more then that 4 million dollar ring that Kobe's wife has.

    Of course, the weird thing about all this is that the DA has admitted SOME consensual sex happened, so it may be very hard to prove Kobe's guilt.

    If I was a juror and it was admitted that the girl agreed to consent to some sex, I would not be able to convict the accussed because there would be reasonable doubt.

    Ah well, it will be interesting to say the least.

    DD
     
  6. MadMax

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    even if she left the room with bruises and red marks on her face and neck??

    even if she had bruising in her "female" areas?

    even if her action immediately following was consistent with someone who had been raped??

    some consensual contact doesn't erase forced penetration...not at all. once you get to forced penetration, whether through sheer force or the fear of force...you're done. just looking at the evidence we've seen so far, it's not hard to see getting there.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Max,

    If there is evidence of forced, then you are correct. However if it is vaginal bruising etc, I would not be able to convict due to some bruising occuring naturally during rough sex.

    However, if there is evidence around her neck, arms etc..of being forced, then I would have no problem throwing his ass in the slammer.

    DD
     
  8. NJRockFan

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    I think it will be depend on the accuser. How much time will it take for her to crack under pressure? As soon as the trial starts, her name becomes public record. Her judgment will be examined and who knows what they can find out about her.

    I think the prosecution will have no choice but to go for a plea bargain. Kobe has hired himself really good lawyers who will seek out anyone willing to discuss the accuser in a negative light.

    This whole case will be a plea bargain on a lesser charge to avoid a jury trial where "reasonable doubt" can be easily raised if the accuser proves to be as unstable as people are saying.
     
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  9. SLA

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    And you know...if he won't be able to play...then it will be very sad. The NBA will not be as popular...it's sad.
     
  10. negitoro

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    It's sexual assault.

    For sports stars, that's like shoplifting for the rest of us. *sigh* He'll go through trial, get a slap on the wrist and be back in time for the playoffs.
     
  11. ROCKSS

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    never mind
     
  12. kountzer

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    I think Kobe's days in the NBA are done.
     
  13. oscuro

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    i agree
     
  14. FLAGRANT1

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    The trial hasn't even started yet, and you guys don't even know the facts of the case. Basing your opinions on rumors is not very just or smart for that matter.
     
  15. BERSERKER

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    Either that or they missed about the last 50 pro athlete felony cases. Even murdering someone isn't an automatic "Go To Jail" card.
     
  16. BERSERKER

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    The prosecution would have to have an utterly pathetic case to even entertain the thought of offering Kobe a plea bargain. Kobe's lawyers would tell them to go F themselves in so many words. Pleaing to a lesser sexual assault charge pretty much ruins Kobe's cred forever. With a PB, there is NO way Kobe can avoid punishment. He would have to register as a sexual offender, he would be on probation for many years (probation does not necessarily exclude jail time), he would have to adhere to the terms of his probation which would not be pleasant, and he would automatically lose all of his endorsements by admitting to -something-. Not only that, but he would at least be suspended by the league for admitting to a crime.

    Kobe is actually much better off having a trial. The odds that he won't be convicted are actually pretty high depending on the right mix of jurors.
     
  17. NJRockFan

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    He's going to lose the endorsements anyway and will be suspended even if he gets a misdeamenour(sp!). I really think she'll crack and at minimum he will plea bargain to a lesser charge. She'll file a civil suit. Either way, Kobe is never going to be the same.

    If on the slim chance he's found guilty, I believe he'll end up on probation since he's got a clean record.

    As far as the jury goes, Kobe should hope they have a change of venue. Eagle county is a very white county.
     
  18. BERSERKER

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    He will not plea bargain because the DA won't give him a non-sex assault charge to plea to -and- because PBing to any sexual assault charge will mean at the very least that he will have to register as a sex offender. He would probably also get a lengthy probation term full of goals. If the accuser's story cracks, Kobe probably wins the case anyway.

    Kobe's best shot is to go through with the trial. If he's found guilty, his lawyers will appeal.
     
  19. BERSERKER

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    Another thing, I don't think Kobe yet has a sufficient claim for a change of venue. The lily whitness of the jury pool is not a reason for a COV. The racial composition of the jury pool in Eagle Cty is similar to the other possible CO counties. If this weren't a world-wide story, he might have reason for a COV because another county probably wouldn't have known so much about what he did in Eagle Cty. Because he's Kobe, the amount of pub this case has received in Eagle Cty is the same as in every county.

    Eagle Cty is actually a good venue if he can't get a trial in the Denver metro area. The jury pool is composed of educated (avg above 1st yr college) and above middle-class people. Those are his peers. I'd be surprised if we don't see at least one African-American on the jury as well.
     
  20. mikedane

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    kobe should be back in a few years trying to make a come-back like mike tyson only to wind up broke. I also hear that o.j. is looking for a golf partner
     

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