It has been reported 3 years, $15-18 million. It also says if he stays, his money/that money will go towards Marko Todorovic. What do you know about that, if anything?
Don't think they'll get #4 for Rubio. But I think they'd settle for getting WCS or Kaminsky or perhaps even Trey Lyles and change.
The full Non-Taxpayer MLE is $5.464 million. I doubt Llull's (allegedly promised) first year salary would be higher than that. Not necessarily. Teams can sign their second round picks to league minimum deals up to TWO years in length. The reason for dipping into the MLE is if a team wants to lock those players up for a third or fourth year and/or offer them a little more than the rookie minimum on the front end in exchange for benefits on the back end of the deals. By no means will the Rockets pass up on a higher-rated domestic product at #32 simply because they may not be able to sign that pick to a deal longer than two seasons.
Anything less than the full MLE is probably a no go for Llull. With a 4.5 mill buyout he would have to pay to play. Just don't see that happening. I suspect Morey has already bounced around number to him that could be close to 6 mil the first year with the projected cap increase in 2015.
But it would include the 500,000 buyout money which makes cyberx's info right on the money. Another great nugget cyberx, thanks.
Full 3-year MLE this summer is: Yr 1: $5.464 million Yr 2: $5.7098 million Yr 3: $5.95576 million Total: $17.12956 million I think this might be where you could possibly put together your post that if Llull comes, we're probably losing Brewer. The reasoning is that if Llull agrees to a full 3-year deal then the most we're probably going to offer Brewer is 1-year $4.7 million with at most a team option for year 2 and a non-guaranteed year 2 salary (Kostas contract again). This leaves us open for max cap space in 2016 with Llull, Ariza, and Dmo's cap hold. Whereas if we have one more guaranteed contract on the books we are likely infringing on max cap space next summer. So..............if that's the scenario that unfolds with Llull coming over then Brewer is most likely to say no thanks and walk away. Which means Brewer's cap hold disappears. So if Brewer's cap hold disappears and we re-sign JSmoove for $2,492,400, draft at #18 and #32, and then drop Kostas and Pablo ($440,000 guaranteed) instead of trade them, then we could go conceivably dip under the cap and sign Llull with cap space. And actually play with the salary a little bit. In the above scenario if the cap came in at $66.5 million we would have $6.337,578 of cap space to use (plus the Room MLE left to use later if needed) by simply dropping Kostas and Pablo and adding #18, #32, and re-signing Smoove (120%), and without moving out any of Dorsey/Jones/Johnson. So if we cannot get a trade done that sends out our non-guaranteeds plus some or all of Dorsey/Jones/Johnson then we could conceivably drop Kostas/Pablo and use cap space to sign Llull. The advantage would be we would still have the room MLE to use later in the season (like we did this year with the bi-annual exception for Smith). ==== ====================================== The above may be a consideration if Llull indeed does commit to playing here and we've still got Bev and McDaniels on cap holds before they sign offer sheets. It's simply a possiiblity. The advantage to us would be the ability to structure Lull's money so that it decreases next summer when we are shooting for max cap space. We could then offer Bev a very favorable Kostas-style contract with a high first year salary followed by a second season that is a team option and non-guaranteed, thereby turning him into a trade chip that could be used later this next season or next summer or he could be waived to reclaim the cap space. In saying all that, once again, I will not believe Llull is coming over until he signs a contract. I remain convinced he is simply using us to pull donw more money from Real Madrid and he has no intention of coming stateside.
Wesley Matthews was signed by Portland using the MLE and was paid 9M in the first year of his contract through a signing bonus.
I assume it's 3yrs/18mil per year equaling 6 but just curious... can we trade picks and someone like Dorsey to create a small exception that can be combined with the MLE?
I understand the skepticism about Llull coming over, since we've been down that road before, but I don't think his "interest" in coming now has anything to do with getting more bread from Real Madrid, unless it's in endorsements and the like. He's already under contract. Your other ideas were interesting, though.
I have heard that achieving his goal of winning euroleague was a significant reason why he hasn't considering coming to the NBA. Now that real madrid won the org feels there's a better chance he comes over (which is not to say that its a done deal).
Not sure if this has been discussed or how useful it is, but... Can the Rockets do the following with Llull in order to pay him more than the MLE? Step 1. Trade his draft rights today to, say, the Sixers or any team with a decent amount of upcoming cap room for a future draft pick. The Rockets would not have to take back any salary because Llull doesn't need to be signed before his draft rights can be traded. Also, this would count as a transaction done in the 2014-15 season, which means... Step 2. After July 1, 2015, the Rockets trade the non-guaranteed contract of Papanikalaou plus the draft pick that they obtained for Sergio Llull in Step 1 in exchange for Sergio Llull, now signed by the Sixers using their cap room to a contract starting at, say, $6M. Larry Coon's CBA FAQ says that the you cannot use the MLE to sign-and-trade a player, but can this happen if the Sixers use cap room and not the MLE to sign Llull? Also, the FAQ says that there's a rule that prevents a player who didn't finish the preceding season with a team to be signed and traded by that team, but this is aimed at preventing situations like when long-retired Keith Van Horn being used in a sign a trade. Does this rule apply to rookies as well?
Cyber, what would you say the chances are Houston can actually convince Llull to come over? Do they feel confident?
Am I wrong BT... Are you not allowed to pay 500,000 toward a players buyout above the MLE. If so that makes it almost 6 mil~. And since the true MLE won't be known till after July saying 6 mil more or less would be accurate. Is that correct?
http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/6/1...-lamarcus-aldridge-sign-trade-houston-rockets Didn't want to start a new thread but some radio guy in Portland is talking about a sign and trade with Aldridge coming to Houston... any truth to this?
This just all depends on what Aldridge wants..... He can go to SA and get a shot this year with those vets. Then he can take that team (along with Leonard and a fading Parker) and I am sure they will have success just because they are the Spurs.. He can go to Dallas and pretty much have his own team right away. You can bet your ass that CP and Dirk are taking a backseat. Cuban will sell his soul to hurt Houston and get a player like LMA. And then there is Houston. All he will have a chance to do here is win the most and play on a team that made the WCF last year. Houston also has the better top end Talent (H and H). IMO LMA fits in with them well. Mid range or not.
They're talking about a Rockets fan proposed trade. Nothing more than a random trade proposal on this board. Rockets fan "ItLikeThat" proposed a trade. Donatas Motiejunas, Terrence Jones, Corey Brewer, Kostas Papanikolau, 2016 or 2017 1st round pick for Aldridge. Meanwhile, Blazer fans...
Short of Howard or Harden what would Portland need or want from Houston? Howard and Jones for LMA and promote D-Mo to starting center? Seems unlikely to me. I don't see Harden ever being traded by Morey, but I have been wrong so many times before. So honestly I have no idea.
